Lionel Battery Suggestion?

If you are running with Legacy, or TMCC, why is a battery even needed? I have begun removing the 9 Volt batteries from all my TMCC equipped locomotives, since I never operate in conventional. I have seen that recommendation posted many, many, many times here on the OGR Forums.

Originally posted by Hiawatharunner:

Is anyone running a Lithium 9V Battery in their Legacy or TMCC locomotive? Have you had any issues or comments on
using these types of batteries?

Many issues regarding batteries! Even though I run conventional, IT's NO batteries as my goal. ANY battery is subject to leaking. Once leaked, the electronics and frame, etc. starts corroding and becoming destroyed. Furthurmore, for many of these locomotives it's a real pita to remove and replace the batteries to begin with. Many locos do NOT have the magnets holding the hatch, usually it's the thin plastic tabs that are easily broken and parts are difficult at best to find and repair. Why ask for trouble when you don't have to. BTW, I had used the Dallee item and found it 50/50 to work. The forumite GRJ Your Last Battery has better solid electronics and works as advertised... not to mention that Hennings is a sponsor of this forum.

http://hennings-trains.shoplig...unds-batt-repla.html

If you REALLY want to make a suggestion to Lionel, they should have incorporated this circuitry in their Legacy-Railsounds electronics package anyway, esp for the current prices, just like MTH did with their PS3.0

I was not aware of the Hennings version. I think I will give that one a try as I like the fact that it retains the original 9V Battery Holder. It states that the Hennings will last about 10 Seconds on removal of power and I think that will be enough for the shutout sequence of many steam locomotives.

I thought GunnerJohn made an electronic  unit that replaces the Lionel battery. I see Hot Water gave the site above. sorry.

HiawathaRunner posted:

I was not aware of the Hennings version. I think I will give that one a try as I like the fact that it retains the original 9V Battery Holder. It states that the Hennings will last about 10 Seconds on removal of power and I think that will be enough for the shutout sequence of many steam locomotives.

I must admit that I'm a bit curious about this "shut down sequence" on steam locomotives. I can fully understand a "shut down sequence" on diesel units, but steam locomotives are really pretty quiet when sitting there anyway, i.e. sound of air pumps "panting", slight blower sound, and dynamo whine.

I'm much more concerned about battery leakage than ANY "shut down sequence".

The whole point of the YLB - RailSounds Battery Replacement was to ride out brief track power interruptions and to provide 10-12 seconds of operation when you shut the power off.  Of course, the another reason for developing it in the first place was to provide a battery you never had to maintain or worry about leakage with.  For conventional operators, the battery provides continuous uninterrupted sound during reverse power drops as well.  Particular attention was paid to low voltage operation so that the YLB would function properly for conventional as well as command operations.

HiawathaRunner posted:

Is anyone running a Lithium 9V Battery in their Legacy or TMCC locomotive? Have you had any issues or comments on using these types of batteries?

A lithium primary battery will last longer, but being a primary battery, it will eventually discharge as well.

Thanks John, that is great info. Getting rid of the possibility of leaky batteries and corroding terminal is more important to me than loosing a few seconds of sound.