A scale sparking GG1 that is not too too expensive!!
Number 90 posted:I am hoping for a Legacy Fairbanks-Morse H16-44 in Santa Fe zebra stripes.
yes, that would be nice, better yet maybe 2 different road numbers.
GG1 is 1399 retail and T 1 in variety of rr is 1799 retail.
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How about the return of the scale SD90MAC ? been quite a few years since Lionel has done them.
A Great Northern S-2 4-8-4. I wouldon't order that in a heartbeat.
PREDICTION: There will be a set of 3 Tropicana 57' Mechanical Refrigerator cars with Rail Sounds and lights. They will be in the 1970's Tropicana paint scheme.
That is not at all what I wanted, so that will be in the catalog.
Something I will buy and it will be delivered broke it the box from China.
ed h posted:Number 90 posted:I am hoping for a Legacy Fairbanks-Morse H16-44 in Santa Fe zebra stripes.
yes, that would be nice, better yet maybe 2 different road numbers.
Yes... The last time Lionel ran those (a couple of years ago, which was just before Lionel's formal BTO program), I think they had 4 or 5 roadnames, each with 2 road-numbers. And they disappeared rather quickly. Although lots of folks like more modern equipment nowadays, I still hold a sentimental spot for FM's. They're my most favorite post-war style diesel.
I think it's time for a Virginian (blue/yellow) re-issue with all the Legacy upgrades, but I'd hate to see it carry a $650 MSRP. I'm fairly certain the 1966 Lionel catalog had a Virginian FM listed for $65 if I recall correctly. Hhhmmm... 50 years later and the list-price could be 10X! 
David
yankspride4 posted:I think we'll see the Allegheny this time around.
You'll be happy....
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falconservice posted:PREDICTION: There will be a set of 3 Tropicana 57' Mechanical Refrigerator cars with Rail Sounds and lights. They will be in the 1970's Tropicana paint scheme.
That is not at all what I wanted, so that will be in the catalog.
.......and an RF&P engine to pull it with.
I think a slight retool of the MetroNorth M7 sets to make MetroNorth/ConnDOT M8 units with Pantagraphs for the New Haven Line.
dk122trains posted:GG1 is 1399 retail ...
In Lionel's 2015V1 catalog, a couple of pilot locomotives had a $1350 MSRP, and dealers have been selling them for between $1050-$1100. So I guess $1100 or so (street price) is gonna be the bogie for GG1 enthusiasts this time around. Could definitely have been worse!
David
CAPPilot posted:dk122trains posted:A T-1 in Legacy!
I hope you mean a PRR T-1 in Legacy!
I'm actually hoping for a Reading/Chessie one. 
Mikado 4501 posted:CAPPilot posted:dk122trains posted:A T-1 in Legacy!
I hope you mean a PRR T-1 in Legacy!
I'm actually hoping for a Reading/Chessie one.
Oh yeah!!
Sounds like some of you guys made a very worthwhile trip to your LHS on Saturday! 
Mikado 4501 posted:CAPPilot posted:dk122trains posted:A T-1 in Legacy!
I hope you mean a PRR T-1 in Legacy!
I'm actually hoping for a Reading/Chessie one.
be careful for what you wish for, as you may just get one, or two, or three or more ......
A LionChief + PRR K4.
Jon 
Interesting. Seems if Lionel does want to have a shroud of secrecy on the catalog they need stricter guide lines for hobby shops. But then again it's sort of like the new Star Wars movie...someone has to be the one who posts the spoilers just so they can be the first.
MartyE posted:Interesting. Seems if Lionel does want to have a shroud of secrecy on the catalog they need stricter guide lines for hobby shops. ...
Marty, this is a bit of a double-edged sword now that Lionel has formalized its BTO program with so much hype in an effort to help hobby shops of ALL sizes fight for pre-orders. Once Lionel sends the catalog packet along with all the pre-sales info out to shops, I think they expect a few leaks. There are just too many LHS's out there.
Wouldn't be surprised if Lionel's "sales kit" to dealers includes a spreadsheet of products and MSRP pricing, so dealers just need to fill in their actual selling prices. I expect we'll be seeing some very familiar-looking price lists in the next several days -- whether they be here on the forum or on dealer websites.
David
Oh I completely understand. A lot of shops. The folks will talk.
The one and only thing I would like and buy is a PW style NON VisionLine 773 with Legacy.
Art
Rocky Mountaineer posted:ed h posted:Number 90 posted:I am hoping for a Legacy Fairbanks-Morse H16-44 in Santa Fe zebra stripes.
yes, that would be nice, better yet maybe 2 different road numbers.
Yes... The last time Lionel ran those (a couple of years ago, which was just before Lionel's formal BTO program), I think they had 4 or 5 roadnames, each with 2 road-numbers. And they disappeared rather quickly. Although lots of folks like more modern equipment nowadays, I still hold a sentimental spot for FM's. They're my most favorite post-war style diesel.
I think it's time for a Virginian (blue/yellow) re-issue with all the Legacy upgrades, but I'd hate to see it carry a $650 MSRP. I'm fairly certain the 1966 Lionel catalog had a Virginian FM listed for $65 if I recall correctly. Hhhmmm... 50 years later and the list-price could be 10X!
David
David,
I would like to see all PW type engines offered with Legacy, just like the PWC series that were offered with TMCC.
Art
MartyE posted:Oh I completely understand. A lot of shops. The folks will talk.
And then of course there is the Internet today, which makes for some lightning fast information exchange that couldn't happen if we wanted it to years ago.
Back in the late 1980's and early 1990's, I worked in Corporate America for a company that built IBM-compatible mainframe computers. IBM would make their product announcements by issuing what they called Ivory Letters -- multi-page documents that were shipped to customers. Whenever "big" product announcements occurred, our company would fly product specialists to the corporate HQ in California to analyze these "big" announcements and produce training materials for the worldwide sales force. When I think of how expensive it was to host those sessions back then compared to how easily information is accessible today online IMMEDIATELY after any kind of announcement, it's crazy!!!
Oh well... back to the toy trains...
David
When I was at the club meeting yesterday. One of the members is a independent Lionel Dealer and tech and because of that he gets email announcements from Lionel. He said the catalog is coming soon and that here is a lot new things coming as well as new LionChief plus.
DennyM posted:He said the catalog is coming soon and that here is a lot new things coming as well as new LionChief plus.
Great to hear. A big 
on some new LC+ offerings. Thanks, Lionel!
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A LionChief plus F3 Diesel would be nice.
A post-war inspired (conventional classics) remake of the 2140WS set with the PRR Turbine / 3 green 027 coaches.
I would like to congratulate Lionel on their efforts to hype up the recent catalog releases. I find myself getting just as excited as I used to when I was younger and would look thru a lionel catalog for the first time. Needless to say, I can't wait till wenesday!!! 
MartyE posted:Interesting. Seems if Lionel does want to have a shroud of secrecy on the catalog they need stricter guide lines for hobby shops. But then again it's sort of like the new Star Wars movie...someone has to be the one who posts the spoilers just so they can be the first.
Hey Marty,
You saw my reply in another thread. What I find disappointing is that a dealer, which is a forum sponsor, disregarded and dishonored Lionel's request and rule by releasing catalog info, including pricing, before the official release date/time.
My train store owning friend won't even tell me, and that's okay. It is how it's supposed to work.
We all bemoan the lot of the LHS in modern times; how we should have integrity when choosing where to buy.
Well, it should work both ways.
I rep a major music gear manufacturer in my area of the country. If one of our dealers did this, they'd be cutoff from product for quite awhile.
A scale T1 and Allegheny .. Man this might hurt depends on the street prices
EscapeRocks posted:MartyE posted:Interesting. Seems if Lionel does want to have a shroud of secrecy on the catalog they need stricter guide lines for hobby shops. But then again it's sort of like the new Star Wars movie...someone has to be the one who posts the spoilers just so they can be the first.
Hey Marty,
You saw my reply in another thread. What I find disappointing is that a dealer, which is a forum sponsor, disregarded and dishonored Lionel's request and rule by releasing catalog info, including pricing, before the official release date/time.
My train store owning friend won't even tell me, and that's okay. It is how it's supposed to work.
We all bemoan the lot of the LHS in modern times; how we should have integrity when choosing where to buy.
Well, it should work both ways.
I rep a major music gear manufacturer in my area of the country. If one of our dealers did this, they'd be cutoff from product for quite awhile.
If you don't mind me asking, what thread was it?
jojofry posted:A scale T1 and Allegheny .. Man this might hurt depends on the street prices
As in Pensy T-1 or Reading T-1 ?!!!!
graz posted:A post-war inspired (conventional classics) remake of the 2140WS set with the PRR Turbine / 3 green 027 coaches.
Now you're talkin'.
jojofry posted:A scale T1 and Allegheny .. Man this might hurt depends on the street prices
At the Allegheny's reported $2200 MSRP, I'm thinking the street price will be $1625-$1675 pre-order/early-buy, and $1700-$1750 thereafter until delivery. Then all bets are off nowadays, as some dealers seem to push street prices toward these inflated MSRP's rather quickly to give the (artificial) impression an item is "hot" or highly desirable. There's a little of that going on with the ESE sets, yet all the dealers seem to have plenty in stock to sell.
As a point of comparison, Lionel's Legacy Y6b had a $2,000 MSRP, and dealer pre-order pricing came in slightly under $1400 before the BTO deadline, then bumped up slightly to $1450 up until the product was delivered. Some dealers held that price after Lionel delivered, and others tried to push the price more toward the grossly inflated MSRP.
OTOH, Lionel's FEF-3 had an $1800 MSRP, and dealer pre-order pricing came in around $1400 -$1450 as well... which might imply a higher internal cost that dealers are being hit with from Lionel since the year the Y6b was catalog'd.
David
EscapeRocks posted:MartyE posted:Interesting. Seems if Lionel does want to have a shroud of secrecy on the catalog they need stricter guide lines for hobby shops. But then again it's sort of like the new Star Wars movie...someone has to be the one who posts the spoilers just so they can be the first.
Hey Marty,
You saw my reply in another thread. What I find disappointing is that a dealer, which is a forum sponsor, disregarded and dishonored Lionel's request and rule by releasing catalog info, including pricing, before the official release date/time.
My train store owning friend won't even tell me, and that's okay. It is how it's supposed to work.
We all bemoan the lot of the LHS in modern times; how we should have integrity when choosing where to buy.
Well, it should work both ways.
I rep a major music gear manufacturer in my area of the country. If one of our dealers did this, they'd be cutoff from product for quite awhile.
While don't we let Lionel decide if "a law was broken" instead of playing OGR police.
MartyE posted:MartyE posted:Well besides the predictable "Trains" and "Same stuff , higher prices" answers you are sure to get I'm hoping for the following...
Geez my prediction is coming true.
I admit that I thought it too.
Now my real hope and what is in my budget this year will be the sensor car. I think these will add greatly to the fun value of the non IR engines we all have.
My sarcastic suggestion is having a mint car full of defective smoke motors.........
If Lionel wants to keep things under wraps the put every authorized distributor, authorized dealer and whom ever get their launch package under NDA. Put a little pressure on and if you violate it then you are disqualified from getting future information until after the scheduled launch.
My previous company did that withe great success, stopped the leaks almost immediately. Straighted up the channels pretty quick.
Works well.
