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My PS1 diesels under variable track power through DCS are making a weird noise. I checked my fuses and none are blown. My PS1 steamers are working fine,with no weird noises. Does anyone think I could possibly have a bad TIU? I've yet to grow a pair to try and set VAR 1 to Fixed, since last time my engine almost flew off the track. ANy ideas would e greatly appreciated, since I do not feel like sending the thing into MTH.

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Originally Posted by Barry Broskowitz:

It is extremely unlikely that the issue with your PS1 diesels is in any way due to your DCS hardware or software.

So, on an updated note, I tested all Inputs and outputs on all fixed and variable channels, as well as the fixed settings on both channels. MY PS2/3 engines do not take off anymore, as long as I change the setting with power to the TIU, and not to the track. I then change the setting, press AON, put my engine on the track, then plug it in. Bravo, although I think ill keep my Var channels in variable mode, and only use Fixed 1 to prevent problems So my TIU is fully functional. I tried the Diesels with a Z cotroller, and no weird noises occured. When I use the Diesels on DCS, the weird noises only happens for a few seconds. Do you think its just one of those things Ill have to live with? I really appreciate everyone's help

PS-1 are conventional engines and they respond to changes in track voltage.  I would think you want to use a VAR channel and turn the DCS signal off on that channel.

 

The fixed channels are better for Command engines such as PS-2 or 3.  In that case you have full voltage on the track and the engine regulates the speed via DCS command signals.  Removing the DCS signal for the PS-1 may reduce any interferrence with sounds.  G

Originally Posted by GGG:

PS-1 are conventional engines and they respond to changes in track voltage.  I would think you want to use a VAR channel and turn the DCS signal off on that channel.

 

The fixed channels are better for Command engines such as PS-2 or 3.  In that case you have full voltage on the track and the engine regulates the speed via DCS command signals.  Removing the DCS signal for the PS-1 may reduce any interferrence with sounds.  G

I am using my PS-1 engines on the variable channel. I am just a little hesitant to do things right now after the freak accident I had earlier today. I set A variable channel to fixed, and my engine took off down the track. Needless to say, everything is fine now, but it was an interesting day. Did that happen because the DCS signal wasn't on? Does AON only deal with the DCS signal?

If you are using the DCS remote to scroll your voltage up on the Variable channels some PS1 diesels will respond to the DCS controlling the voltage with a click/buzz noise.  This is normal, or so I figure, because several of mine do this.  They run normally under otherwise conventional control.  I have not seen any adverse effects.  FWIW.

Originally Posted by Cleartracks01:
Originally Posted by GGG:

PS-1 are conventional engines and they respond to changes in track voltage.  I would think you want to use a VAR channel and turn the DCS signal off on that channel.

 

The fixed channels are better for Command engines such as PS-2 or 3.  In that case you have full voltage on the track and the engine regulates the speed via DCS command signals.  Removing the DCS signal for the PS-1 may reduce any interferrence with sounds.  G

I am using my PS-1 engines on the variable channel. I am just a little hesitant to do things right now after the freak accident I had earlier today. I set A variable channel to fixed, and my engine took off down the track. Needless to say, everything is fine now, but it was an interesting day. Did that happen because the DCS signal wasn't on? Does AON only deal with the DCS signal?

You have to be specific with what type of engine you are talking about.  If a conventional engine and you switched it to fixed, and your input was a brick at full voltage, then yes.  Soon as you switch to fixed, that channel lets the full voltage go to the track.  So if it was at 10V when you made the switch to fixed, it then jumped to 18-22V and the engine takes of.  Remember a conventional engine (any make) will respond directly to track voltage.  G

 


 

Originally Posted by Cleartracks01:
Originally Posted by GGG:
Originally Posted by Cleartracks01:
Originally Posted by GGG:

PS-1 are conventional engines and they respond to changes in track voltage.  I would think you want to use a VAR channel and turn the DCS signal off on that channel.

 

The fixed channels are better for Command engines such as PS-2 or 3.  In that case you have full voltage on the track and the engine regulates the speed via DCS command signals.  Removing the DCS signal for the PS-1 may reduce any interferrence with sounds.  G

I am using my PS-1 engines on the variable channel. I am just a little hesitant to do things right now after the freak accident I had earlier today. I set A variable channel to fixed, and my engine took off down the track. Needless to say, everything is fine now, but it was an interesting day. Did that happen because the DCS signal wasn't on? Does AON only deal with the DCS signal?

You have to be specific with what type of engine you are talking about.  If a conventional engine and you switched it to fixed, and your input was a brick at full voltage, then yes.  Soon as you switch to fixed, that channel lets the full voltage go to the track.  So if it was at 10V when you made the switch to fixed, it then jumped to 18-22V and the engine takes of.  Remember a conventional engine (any make) will respond directly to track voltage.  G

 


 

Alight, the issue with the Engine taking off was a proto 3 diesel, after changing the variable output to fixedissuance is resolved. The issue I am having now is with a proto 1 sd60 making weird noises on the variable input, set up with variable voltage. I think Charly answered my question on the latter issue, although I wouldn't mind figuring out why my proto 3 diesel took off down the track.

"...although I wouldn't mind figuring out why my proto 3 diesel took off down the track."

 

This is just a guess...  but, it might be that you did not power the TIU on/off before applying the voltage to the track.  If this is the case, then your engine got voltage without the watchdog signal and that may be what sent it down the track full speed.  FWIW.

Originally Posted by Charly:

"...although I wouldn't mind figuring out why my proto 3 diesel took off down the track."

 

This is just a guess...  but, it might be that you did not power the TIU on/off before applying the voltage to the track.  If this is the case, then your engine got voltage without the watchdog signal and that may be what sent it down the track full speed.  FWIW.

Alright, so basically, I need to change my variable channels to fixed, turn on the DCS signal,unplug the TIU, place my engine on the track, and then power up again?

Why not just scroll up the voltage to around 18 volts and then press ENG to run command engines. Of course you'll have to park your conventional engines on toggled off siding or spurs.

You could  just leave the dcs signal "on". It shouldn't  bother any non proto2/3 engines. ex Lionel.. proto-1..Weaver... Atlas etc.

 

Select the TR button when you want to go back to conventional.

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