Pics of MTH Premier 999 4-4-0 without the boiler on, need to see the motor

Here is another pic from the side I meant to take pne from the top lol. It has the cover for that gear tower.

You'll also have to have the exact motor with the proper worm if it's a direct drive.  What is the product number?

Thanks John, I am not sure of the product number,  All I have is the chassis.  Will see if I can figure it out.  There are several product numbers, bot cataloged and uncataloged with 86" and 70" and scale drivers per the descriptions.

...Dennis Holler posted:

I got this chassis for a project knowing it need a motor, just want to double check, I'm assuming it would use an RS385 but I realize there are a few variations and this one looks like it may have bearings on either side of the worm gear so I'm curious and the MTH parts identifier isn't much help for this particular loco.

Also, it looks like this is scale driver version, which he large 86" wheels which is what I wanted.  Wheels turn free so that's good, it was just  cannablized for parts to fix other locos by a hobby shop.

Dennis, did you get that chassis from Perry’s?....if so, I held that very chassis in my hands......I met up with Pete (Norton) and Perry let us rummage through his stuff! ...small world if it is!.........Pat

Yes Pat, that is where it came from.  I've noticed they seem to list some interesting parts, I also bought an MTH P5A shell for cheap.

I think it may be the earlier 20-3207 since I see the tender plug instead of the wireless tether that I gather the later 20-3385 and 3590 and 3592 seem to show. 

Dennis, interesting is an understatement .....you can’t fathom the amount of stuff they have....there’s so much to see you cant wrap your head around it....we were digging for what seems like hours! .....this was only about a few weeks ago....I remember distinctly Perry handing me that chassis.....and I passed on it....Pete commented “hey wow that’s from a 999” ....Pete got a few goodies, I filled my trunk! .....high light of my finds...4 Premier Dreyfuss Hudsons....mostly intact!....it was a great time! ....Perry was most hospitable we dug like dogs looking for bones!............Pat

Pat that sounds like a blast!  I keep my eyes out for all the PRR stuff he lists.  Maybe some day I 'll manage to stop in there.

It’s not that bad of a drive from my house in NC to his store.....Pete came down from York and we met up, rummaged through his stuff and had a great lunch!.....had a great time! .....if you go, there’s a tavern in the strip mall his store is located in....great place to eat...easy on the wallet too.........Pat

Believe it or not I think that used the smaller 365 motor with FW no worm.  The Worm was a separate part. So you had a small dogbone too.  G

As Pat says Perry's is quite a place. As for 999 this would be the PS2 version (20-3207-1) if it has a tether. Both versions have scale wheels. 999 was built with the larger diameter drivers for speed but later had smaller (70"???) for better starting and heavier cars. MTH did both early and late versions in PS2 and later in PS3. I have one of each but will have try and dig them out if I can find them. Too much stuff.

FYI Perry's is a little over an hour from the York Fairgrounds taking the most direct route, no interstates, through some nice countryside. Take your sports car if you have one.

Pete

GGG posted:

Believe it or not I think that used the smaller 365 motor with FW no worm.  The Worm was a separate part. So you had a small dogbone too.  G

I think you are correct, I found some references via pictures of other engine's with a similar separate worm and coupling or dogbone.  With that  I could probably fab a motor mount and then couple to the worm shaft.  I also wondered, you may be right that it could be a smaller motor due to the limited size in that firebox.  Will have to see what I can come up with.  Thanks for the thoughts!