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I haven't seen this subject in print although someone has surely written about it before. This is based on my own observations.          

 

Postwar Lionel freight cars generally have the last digit of the four-digit car number corresponding to the car type as follows:     

         

- - - 0     crane or work caboose

- - - 1     flat car

- - - 2     gondola

- - - 3     rarely used for freight cars

- - - 4     box cars

- - - 5     tank cars

- - - 6     stock or hopper car

- - - 7     caboose

- - - 8     box cars

- - - 9     work caboose          

 

There are various exceptions but this is the general pattern for freight cars. Some other patterns are:          

 

Freight cars 2411 - 2855 had coil couplers (1945-1948)

There are relatively few car numbers in 4000 and 5000 series

6800 - 6844 are 10" flatcars with various loads (the highest numbers for postwar Lionel)          

 

I wondered if maybe the 4000 series numbers were reserved for car numbers for additional "electronic" sets that were never built.          

 

Additional info and comments welcomed.

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I've looked for other patterns in Postwar Lionel numbering. The original series of cast frame Lionel FA's were numbered in the 2000 series. Then the later versions with pressed steel frames were numbered in the 200 series - except they messed up the pattern with the last Postwar FA's made in 1969, #2024 and 2041.

 

Postwar Lionel FA locomotives

202  UP    1957

204  AT&SF   1957

205  MP    1957-58

208  AT&SF   1958-59

209  NH    1958

210  Texas Special   1958

211  Texas Special   1962-63

212  AT&SF   1964-66

212  USMC   1958-59

213  M&StL   1964

215  AT&SF 1965-66

216  Burlington 1958

216  M&StL 1965

217  B&M 1959

218  AT&SF 1959-63

219  MP  1959

220  AT&SF 1960-61

221  Rio Grande 1963-64

221  AT&SF 1964

221  USMC 1964

222  Rio Grande 1962

223  AT&SF 1963

224  US Navy 1960

225  C&O  1960

226  B&M 1960

227  CN  1960

229  M&StL 1961-62

230  C&O  1961

231  Rock Island 1961-63

232  New Haven 1962

 

2023  UP  1950-51

2024  C&O 1969

2031  Rock Island 1952-54

2032  Erie  1952-54

2033  UP  1952-54

2041  Rock Island 1969

Another observation about Lionel numbers: the 3000- series cars are all operating cars, or have special loads or special features of some kind. They are mostly postwar items but there were a few prewar ...


prewar three-thousand series operating cars:

 

3651 and 3811 log dump cars
3652 operating gondola
3659 and 3859 operating dump car
3814 mechandise car

 

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Ooops, senior moment ... J White already mentioned this previously:

 

2 coil couplers

3 operating cars

4 electronic set

6 magnetic couplers

Last edited by Ace

Actually the freight car numbering system you describe goes all the way back to the 1920s.   Standard gauge cabooses were 217 and 517, and O Gauge cabooses ( cabeese?) were 807, 817, 2817, etc.  Lionel dropped the pattern in the '50s when the number of freight cars offered started to increase (esp. Flat cars). 

 

MPC had some recognizable patterns, too.  Besides the well-known second-digit-is-the-year system, note that after 1971 the last two digits of MPC steam engine numbers were 00-49 (8206, 8309, 8007, etc) and the diesels and electrics were all 50 and above. 

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