Pullman Std C&O/D&RGW/D&H

Originally Posted by jgtrh62:
Hi Charlie,
Have you checked with Roger at Wasatch Models? I saw a note a week or two ago stating he has limited quantities remaining of his O Scale 41-N, 41-ND, 41-CUDO, 61-UDO and Pullman 6410 trucks.
John

John,

Thank-you for the heads up. I have contacted Mr. Lewis and seen the Wasatch 41N trucks on eBay. I understand that they are 5' O-gauge and not Proto48 standard gauge. Now, my concern is their wheelbase: 8.5' vs. 9'. My understanding is that GSC made 41N trucks with both wheelbases. The drawings for the D&RGW equipment in the Pullman Standard Library show a 9' wheelbase, so I'm hoping the Wasatch 41N trucks have a 9' wheelbase. If the Wasatch 41N trucks have an 8.5' wheelbase, then I'll look for something else, such as the PSC 41-N-11 model. The 6% difference in the wheelbases is large enough to notice, so I want to get this right, especially considering what these trucks cost.

Union Station Products are BTO, my CC has been charged but I haven't received anything saying how long it will be or when it will ship.  I think I'll email them and see what they say about times involved to make and ship so the rest of you guys will know.

MODELING SOUTHEAST VIRGINIA

Having A Blast Running BPRC

Originally Posted by rheil:
Originally Posted by ChainsawCHARL1E:

Mr. Brebeck of OK Steamliners just replied and said that he does not have the tooling to produce a Pullman Standard lightweight with this kind of siding. I will contact him again to see if he has tooling for Erie-Lackawanna's AC&F streamliners which were used on the D&H's Adirondack when it was operating for Amtrak. I have also contacted Scott at Sunset, just in case he was running low on suggestions about what to make next. In the unlikely event that Mr. Mann is not inspired by my great idea, does anyone have contact information for Haynes McDaniel? I would really like to stay in the realm of metal trains in spite of the advances made in resin kits.

I would still be tempted to get Ted to make the car extrusions for you without any corrugation. Evergreen plastic makes the correct corrugation in 24 inch long sheets. You could add the plastic corrugation to an aluminum car. A number of us have done it and it works fine.

I wonder if a Union Station Products fluted side/roof wrapper kit would work well on an OK Engines aluminum smooth-side Pullman body?

MODELING SOUTHEAST VIRGINIA

Having A Blast Running BPRC

VGN64 posted:

Does anyone have the Pullman drawing or any drawing that shoes the color spacing on the C&O streamlined passenger cars?  I would love something that has measurements or guides.

Thanks

The book Chesapeake and Ohio Passenger Cars in Color  has a painting and lettering chapter on pages 62 - 65. It says the federal yellow letterboard on the P-S cars was 16-5/8" wide. There is a reproduction of the original Pullman painting diagram, D-6213, however it is nearly illegible so you would have to find that drawing.

 

Ken

after a cursory scan of the Pullman digital newberry library I can find the painting striping and lettering of  D&RGW owned lightweight cars.

  Filename . Case Pullman, 05-02-03, roll-20-CE-D-5095.tif

 call#  case Pullman 05/02/03 roll20

  Keep in mind there are 2349 drawings with new ones added regular.

I emailed the Newberry Museum which has the Pullman plans.  I asked specifically for the Illinois Central paint schemes and this is the information they sent me.  I want to share this as anyone looking for Pullman information this is the source.

Hello from the Newberry: The drawing can now  be downloaded(for free) from our Website http://collections.carli.illinois.edu/cdm/search/collection/nby_pullman/searchterm/MD-D-5014/order/nosort   You can also now zoom in (use the button "+" located at the top) to see the drawings more clearly.  If you wanted to order a higher resolution publication quality TIFF of this drawing you would need to order this through our Digital Services Department  http://www.newberry.org/rights-and-reproductions To begin the process,  create an account in our system(AEON).  Go to requests.newberry.org, complete the registration form(you only need to complete the items with the red*).  Once this is done, let me know and I can place the order for you.  The base cost is $30.00.   You will then receive an estimate from the Digital Department and once they receive payment, your order will be processed. If you have searched for other drawings in our online collection and have not found what you needed,  we do have others, however, these are primarily organized by plan #.  Lot number can assist when looking for specifications and the name of the specific car can also be useful.  By railroad, you would need the drawing number.  Hope this helps.  If you want to place an order, let me know when you have created your account so we can get the processed started.  All best,

I brought this thread back because I finally finished my C&O 10-6 and 11 DBR PS sleepers. These are made from American Lightweight kits. I have to apologize for these being 3 rail cars on the 2 rail forum, but there seems to be more of an appreciation for accuracy to prototype on this forum.

10-6, Town of Thurmond:

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11 DBR Monticello:

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kanawha posted:

I brought this thread back because I finally finished my C&O 10-6 and 11 DBR PS sleepers. These are made from American Lightweight kits. I have to apologize for these being 3 rail cars on the 2 rail forum, but there seems to be more of an appreciation for accuracy to prototype on this forum.

10-6, Town of Thurmond:

Thurmond1

Very nice work. I've built a few of these kits myself for others, interesting to say the least!

kanawha posted:

I brought this thread back because I finally finished my C&O 10-6 and 11 DBR PS sleepers. These are made from American Lightweight kits. I have to apologize for these being 3 rail cars on the 2 rail forum, but there seems to be more of an appreciation for accuracy to prototype on this forum.

10-6, Town of Thurmond:

Thurmond1

Thurmond2

Thurmond3

Thurmond4

11 DBR Monticello:

Monticello1

Monticello2

Monticello3

Monticello4

Superb modeling.    How did you add the crome around the windows?  Are the windows glass?   Are they flush mounted with the outside?

 

 

Jim Allen

VGN64 posted:

What did you use to make the silver window frame on the windows?  It really adds to the windows more then using a line pen to paint the edge of the window punch.

Just a very small paint brush, silver paint, and a steady hand. Tedious work for sure but it does make the windows look better.

Ken

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