question on mth ho engines

hello. i am interested in buying a mth steam engine number 80-3274-1[which is ho] and my question is will it run on my nce system? i read where some of the ho mth engines only run on dc. the voltage on my ho track is ac but is there a way to make this engine i want run on my track or is it just dc voltage for the mth engines? thanks for the help. hope i explained it right. 

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From the MTH Website for the 80-3274-1:

 

  • Die-Cast Boiler and Tender Body
  • Die-Cast Metal Chassis
  • Authentic Paint Scheme
  • Engineer and Fireman Figures
  • Metal Handrails and Decorative Bell
  • RP25 Metal Wheels
  • Metal Wheels and Axles
  • Sprung Drivers
  • (2) #158 Scale Kadee Whisker Couplers
  • Operating Kadee Compatible Remote Controlled Proto-Coupler
  • Kadee Coupler Mounting Pads
  • Prototypical Rule 17 Lighting
  • Constant Voltage Headlight
  • Operating Marker Lights
  • Lighted Cab Interior
  • Operating Tender Back-up Light
  • Powerful 5-Pole Precision Flywheel Equipped Skew-Wound Motor
  • Synchronized Puffing ProtoSmoke System
  • Locomotive Speed Control In Scale MPH Increments
  • Wireless Drawbar w/Close Coupling Option
  • 1:87 Scale Proportions
  • Onboard DCC Receiver
  • Operates On Code 70, 83 and 100 Track
  • Proto-Sound 3.0 With The Digital Command System Featuring: Quillable Whistle With Passenger Station Proto-Effects
  • Unit Measures:16 3/4” x 1 1/2” x 2 5/16”
  • Operates On 18" Radius Curves

    Steam DCC Features

     

  • F0 Head/Tail light
  • F1 Bell
  • F2 Horn
  • F3 Start-up/Shut-down
  • F4 PFA
  • F5 Lights (except head/tail)
  • F6 Master Volume
  • F7 Front Coupler
  • F8 Rear Coupler
  • F9 Forward Signal
  • F10 Reverse Signal
  • F11 Grade Crossing
  • F12 Smoke On/Off
  • F13 Smoke Volume
  • F14 Idle Sequence 3
  • F15 Idle Sequence 2
  • F16 Idle Sequence 1
  • F17 Extended Start-up
  • F18 Extended Shut-down
  • F19 Labor Chuff
  • F20 Drift Chuff
  • F21 One Shot Doppler
  • F22 Coupler Slack
  • F23 Coupler Close
  • F24 Single Horn Blast
  • F25 Engine Sounds
  • F26 Brake Sounds
  • F27 Cab Chatter
  • F28 Feature Reset

 

Rusty

 

shurlock1 posted:

I don't think anyone is really answering your question. They are telling you what they have and about proto3. Call MTH tomorrow and get an answer.410-381-2580

There are two versions of the MTH HO engines for sale. One is DCC equipped, one is DCC ready.  So the OP needs to state which model # exactly he's looking at.

Maybe adding to the confusion were the very first releases of MTH HO engines that only ran with DC power?

" on Sour mash and cheap wine " ??

Why go back to DCC when I have DCS!

Engineer-Joe posted:
shurlock1 posted:

I don't think anyone is really answering your question. They are telling you what they have and about proto3. Call MTH tomorrow and get an answer.410-381-2580

There are two versions of the MTH HO engines for sale. One is DCC equipped, one is DCC ready.  So the OP needs to state which model # exactly he's looking at.

Maybe adding to the confusion were the very first releases of MTH HO engines that only ran with DC power?

He did: 80-3274-1.  Which is a 2017 model w/3.0.

Rusty

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hello and thanks for the replies. the option of calling mth is fine but i need to know now because the engine i want is on sale and i need the info now. as stated by shurlock1, my question is not being answer the way i would understand it. i have a nce system. will the engine 80-3274-1 work on my layout. yes or no. thanks

bullfroggs posted:

hello and thanks for the replies. the option of calling mth is fine but i need to know now because the engine i want is on sale and i need the info now. as stated by shurlock1, my question is not being answer the way i would understand it. i have a nce system. will the engine 80-3274-1 work on my layout. yes or no. thanks

Yes.  It will run with any DCC system.  The primary concept of DCC is any decoder will respond to any system.

Just check to see if there's a DCC/DCS switch on the locomotive and if there is, it's in the DCC position.  The O and S models have a switch, I'm just not sure about the HO models.

Rusty

 

David Minarik posted:

MTH HO engines need DC.  They do make an AC HO board for the 3rail HO

**AHEM**  From an earlier post:

 

  • 1:87 Scale Proportions
  • Onboard DCC Receiver

 

Which means it will operate on a track with the DCC signal present, which is not a DC voltage.

dcc signal

While an MTH Proto3.0 locomotive will operate on DC, it doesn't need straight DC.

Rusty

 

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DL&W Pete posted:

YES, this engine WILL run on your NCE system.

ALL MTH Proto 3.0 can run on AC, DC, DCS or DCC. 

Not true for HO.  Only the Marklin style 3 rail MTH HO boards are meant for AC I believe.  Have not done much HO work recently.   O and #1 gauge that is true.  G

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GGG posted:
DL&W Pete posted:

YES, this engine WILL run on your NCE system.

ALL MTH Proto 3.0 can run on AC, DC, DCS or DCC. 

Not true for HO.  Only the Marklin style 3 rail MTH HO boards are meant for AC I believe.  Have not done much HO work recently.   O and #1 gauge that is true.  G

MTH S Scale will also run on AC, DC, DCC, or DCS.

I imagine the code is the same and the two-rail HO models will run on AC, but I can't think of any two-railers running HO on AC anyway.

Rusty

GGG posted:
DL&W Pete posted:

YES, this engine WILL run on your NCE system.

ALL MTH Proto 3.0 can run on AC, DC, DCS or DCC. 

Not true for HO.  Only the Marklin style 3 rail MTH HO boards are meant for AC I believe.  Have not done much HO work recently.   O and #1 gauge that is true.  G

I ran my 2 rail O scale with proto 3.0 through dcs with a Z1000 AC power supply. Also ran a HO K4 off of AC power.....

IT WILL WORK, I did it.

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