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Hi All,  figured I'd post a quick and easy shelf I made to help organize my son's trains.  I plan to make another 4 or 5 so he can keep all his engines and rolling stock up off the ground.  It'll be a safe place for me to keep my engine and cars since we do this hobby together.  It couldn't be more simple, all you need is a table saw, drill, and pocket hole jig.  What I did was, I took a scrap maple board, used my table saw to cut two groves spaced 1 1/8" (O gauge in my case) figured where I wanted it on the wall, marked the board, and used a pocket hole jig to drill 3 holes where the screws will hit the studs once it's in position of where I want it.  No shelf brackets needed, and it's held on surprisingly strong.  For screws, I used 2 1/2" coarse thread pocket hole screws.  To top it off, I drilled a hole on each end and glued in a small dowel piece to prevent cars from rolling off the shelf.  It looks kind of lonely up there right now, but after this weekend I'll have a few more hung.  So far, I'm happy with the look and function.  I cant wait to see how my son likes it when he gets home from school.  Here's a few photos of the shelf so you get the idea.  I'm sure others have made similar shelves for their trains, hopefully it helps someone out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It looks great, and the grooved boards are neater and simpler than putting track on a shelf.

 

However I would be concerned that your method of attaching the shelves to the walls may not be sufficiently strong for some of the really heavy locomotives that many O-gaugers have. For multiple shelves, shelf brackets would require fewer screws, they would be easier to install for most people, would be easier to maintain uniform spacing between multiple shelves, and would be easier to adjust for spacing.

 

Your son has a nice tidy train table!

Thanks everyone.  I wasn't sure how sturdy it would be, but it's really secure.  I'm sure it can hold the heaviest engines.  Pocket hole joints always surprise me...I used them to build my sons train table, such a nice strong joint.  I'm looking forward to making a few more of these shelves and getting the rest of his cars and engines on display.

Cutting a groove is a simple, inexpensive, and great idea particularly for shelves for young kids - when they place the loco/rolling stock on the shelf and work it back and forth a bit the wheels tend to slide into the groove and align themselves easily.   Quicker and more reliable for little hands to get it settled in, so to speak.

 

I like the look of having the loco farther up above the surface around it - more prototype as if on rails.  I also worry a bit -- perhaps uncessarily -- above storing them with the springs on the center pickups compressed all the time as is the case with grooves. 

 

I make cheap but utilitarian shelves for the higher places in my trainroom as shown below, using 1 x 4s as the shelf with two 1/4 by 1/4 wooden stripes glued down for "rails" - I buy those thing wood strips in the molding section of Lowes or Home Depot and just glue and clamp for twenty minutes.  For shelves not up well above eye level I still install track but these work fine up near the ceiling, as this one it.

Cheap Shelves for Locos

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Pocket holes screws are a really strong.  When I screwed the shelf to the studs, the shelf was pulled tight to the wall...it's surprisingly rigid.  Like I mentioned, I first pictured just keeping rolling stock on there and keeping engines on the layout, but now I'll keep them up on the shelf as well.  Here's a photo of the shelf with two (10) work out plates on it.  I have no doubt it would hold much more than 20 pounds as it never even flexed when they put on there. 

 

 

These are the pocket hole screws I used for attachment...they're pretty rugged and are screwed right into the studs.  2 1/2" coarse thread.  Subtracting the shelf material and sheet rock thickness, they're screwed over 1 3/4" into the studs. 

 

 

Personally, I'd be a bit concerned that the wood of the shelf could fail with those fittings, when the weight is further away from the wall. As the load moves further away from the wall, the moment of the force increases considerably and could exceed that which the strength of the wood can accommodate. This is not helped by the screws being angled upwards from below, and therefore not transferring much, if any, of the load into the wall.

But having said all of that, it does look good.  Just be careful that you don't exceed the load that it is easily capable of supporting.

Hi all

Here are a couple of suggestions, the first is built from 4x1 planed pine, painted with satin paint and backed with white hardboard, the shelves are nailed to the hardboard so no problem with weight, cost about $30 and a bit of time

 

The second is a way of storing cars using Ikea wine rack with the bottle ends not fitted to result in storage for 10 full size cars or 20 freight cars, I have shown it with a car hanging out for illustration

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I doubt you could put enough weight on those shelves to make them fail, certinaly not with trains.I hang cabinets with screws like those . The screws shear rating is probably around 1000#, of course they would bend before that. Maple has a psi of 1300# or so, very dense and strong. no worries, nice shelf. Fred
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Pocket holes screws are a really strong.  When I screwed the shelf to the studs, the shelf was pulled tight to the wall...it's surprisingly rigid.  Like I mentioned, I first pictured just keeping rolling stock on there and keeping engines on the layout, but now I'll keep them up on the shelf as well.  Here's a photo of the shelf with two (10) work out plates on it.  I have no doubt it would hold much more than 20 pounds as it never even flexed when they put on there. 

 

 

These are the pocket hole screws I used for attachment...they're pretty rugged and are screwed right into the studs.  2 1/2" coarse thread.  Subtracting the shelf material and sheet rock thickness, they're screwed over 1 3/4" into the studs. 

 

 

I think some are over-analyzing this shelf of mine.  It's just a shelf to put some trains on.  I only posted about it because it was so simple to make, and I like the clean look with no brackets.  I'm still new to trains, my son and I are just starting out, but I'm guessing there isn't a single O gauge train made that even weights 10lbs, much less twenty.  I'm of course just guessing.  I could go home and place a 50 pound weight on the shelf and take a picture, but I'm sort of done with discussing what a simple shelf is capable of holding.  There is zero danger of this shelf ever falling, and if I even thought that there was a small chance of injury to my child occurring because of a shelf then all his trains would be in plastic bins under his train table. 

 

The way pocket hole screws and joints work are, the screw shaft is thinner than the threaded part of the screw.  You also drill a pilot hole through the joint so in effect, the screw's washer-head holds the piece to another piece by squeeze pressure.  The wood can still expand and contract by normal allowances with no danger of splitting.  Before expansion / contraction cause this shelf to fall, you should be more concerned with your bed, your kitchen cabinets, your end tables, bureaus, etc.  I'm also a woodworker and have built many end tables with pocket hole screws and have never had one come apart.  I've even made test joints just for the purpose of tearing apart to check for strength, they're incredibly strong.  So to clarify...it was just a simple shelf idea to display a few trains on...and I liked it so I figured I'd pass it along in case someone else did too.  Nobody here is being forced to convert to "Mike's train shelves" LOL 

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