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@RSJB18 posted:

Bill- that's a Millhouse rotary coal dump. The operation works like this.

The loaded car is pushed into the dumper, after it is emptied, it's pushed out of the dump unit and down a slope just enough to run it up an incline through a sprung switch, and then down to a staging yard where the empties are picked up.

It wasn't being operated but that's the basics.

Bob

That explains it, Bob. I didn't realize the gondolas are pushed into the unloader from the end we can't see. I sure wish I had the space so I could use one with my PPLX gondola consist! I'd definitely use black pelletized engineering thermoplastic, such as ABS or PC, as a coal substitute, though. I could envision coal dust really fouling the intricate Millhouse mechanism.

@RSJB18 posted:

Great switchers as always.

Yesterday afternoon my son and I took a trip out to see the New Jersey Hi-railers club in Patterson. We met a special guest and his wife @Buco - Peter and Sue from Austrailia. They are on a cross country tour of the US and had arranged a visit to the club. Also attending was @Mark V. Spadaro, he and I have been trying to get together for a while. It was nice to meet some Forum members in person.
Ben @bluelinec4 along with a few other members were gracious hosts and showed us around the layout and the control platform up above. The place lives up to the hype. Absolutely incredible layout.
I'd be remiss if I didn't thank Ben for the gift of a NJHR club car- a MTH gondola with scrap load too.

Here's some switchers that were on the layout.


Peter had just picked up a SD-45 from EZ Catch Trains on Staten Island, and Mark brought along a WM Geep to run.





Enjoy the rest of the Holiday weekend.

Bob

Bob

It was great having you and Brian at the club  Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did   And Happy Birthday

@Bill Swatos posted:

I really like the rotary gondola unloader setup shown in the foreground of your video above, Bob! Did you get to see it in action? I'd be really interested to see how they load and control the gondolas on the inclined  "feeder" siding.

This is an old video of when we installed out first rotary coal dumper   We have since replaced it with a new one but you can get the idea of how it opertes from this

@bluelinec4 posted:

This is an old video of when we installed out first rotary coal dumper   We have since replaced it with a new one but you can get the idea of how it opertes from this

Ingenious! Is this the Lionel version? I presume the rotating coupler end goes in first and the non-rotating coupler has the uncoupling armature (or plate). Unfortunately, my Lionel PPLX gons don't have uncouplers on the fixed-coupler trucks.

@Bill Swatos posted:

Ingenious! Is this the Lionel version? I presume the rotating coupler end goes in first and the non-rotating coupler has the uncoupling armature (or plate). Unfortunately, my Lionel PPLX gons don't have uncouplers on the fixed-coupler trucks.

No this is not Lionel   It was made by AAA turntables   Dont think they are around anymore   The current one we have is from Millhouse river    The rotating coupler goes in first that is correct   This allows the magnet under te track to uncouple the back of the car and let it roll down the ramp

Hi Bill, I don't want to steal Sitkas thunder,  but here's and idea for a LED headlight for your #41. This is one way to go and possibly the easiest solution. Here's the link to Evans Design page with what you could use.

https://evandesigns.com/produc...ariant=6763864621104

This has a built in rectifier so you don't have to make your own, which can be tedious! It works with DC/AC/DCC 7-19 volts. All you have to do is figure out how to mount the LED and then connect it to the power and ground wires already in the locomotive. In conventional mode the LED should come on almost immediately when you apply power.

Select: 3mm, 8" wire, warm light, 7-19 volt. $3.25 plus shipping

Thanks, Scott! I've combined your guidance with Mark's @Sitka for what I hope will be a smooth job. I'm also going to "dive in" to a conversion of my newly-acquired O-Line semi-scale GG-1, which now has three GOW bulbs on DC from the board with diode directional control on each end, two for each marker set and one for the headlamp, that you can barely see unless you're doing about 90 smph. I'm going to keep the 3-way diode harness and solder the LED power input leads to the corresponding bulb leads.

@trumptrain posted:

Thanks so much Scott!  For some reason I love a train of gons hauling scrap ... lol!   Yes, usually the gons do look worse than the scrap loads they are carrying.  It's nice to know you and I share the affection.  

Your reply inspired me to reminisce about my earliest years here on the planet.   Gondolas were actually the first kind of freight car I came  in contact with,  and have fond memories of them set out on a siding as they were used as idler cars.    My hometown was served by a branch line of the  B&O.   The branch line served a cotton mill which was located on the opposite side of the river directly across from the rails of the branch line.  The bridge used to span the river had been moved to this location from elsewhere on the B&O and had low weight restrictions.  Locomotives were prohibited from crossing the bridge.   In order to reach outbound cars and spot in bound cars at the cotton mill, a string of idler cars in the form of gondolas were  employed.    The floors in these idler/gons were rotted out in many places and I'm sure the cars were at the very end of their useful purpose ... hence being relegated to idler car status on a branch line.   I'm sure they were on borrowed time from the scrapper's torch.  

Due to having to use idler cars, the switching maneuvers were quite involved:

The idler/gons were coupled between the locomotive and inbound/outbound freight cars ( boxcars and open hoppers ) to extend the train over the bridge.    

The switching move routine would be: Locomotive pushes the train of inbound cars from the mainline up the branch line to my hometown.    The inbound cut of cars to be delivered to the mill on the opposite side of the bridge ( spanning the Little Patuxent River ) would be pushed to the precipice of the bridge and uncoupled.  The locomotive ( in my day a GP7 or GP9 before that a steam loco) would then move forward, clearing the switch,  and then back onto the siding with the idler gons.  Once coupled ..  the locomotive would pull forward until the last gon cleared the switch, then back up to the cut of  inbound cars .. couple on, and shove the inbound cars  across the bridge.  Once the loads were to the other side of the bridge, the train was coupled to waiting outbound cars.  The loco then pulled the entire train of idlers, inbound cars, and out bound cars over the bridge then back the outbound cars onto the idler car siding, uncouple ... pull forward with last inbound cars clearing the switch ... then back the entire train over the bridge so that the inbound cars reached the loading dock.  Once in bound cars were uncoupled ..  the idler cars were pulled forward past the switch for the idler car siding where the outbound cars are now set out ... idler cars were pushed back  onto siding and coupled to outbound loads ... locomotive pulls forward with idlers and outbound cars ...  once out bound cars clear the switch .. locomotive pushes idlers and outbound cars back toward bridge where outbounds are uncoupled and left sitting ... the idlers are then pulled forward and then backed into the idler car siding where they wait to perform the same function the next day.  

Lots of switching moves which would be fun to simulate on a model railroad!

Patrick, Thanks for the rather intense description of the switching! I'll bet as a young kid that was so much fun to watch, and as an adult I get the idea. I can imagine you as a you person enjoying this wonderful railroad activity with all the lash ups and bashing of old worn out rail cars. That's a lot of info and description on a bygone era, it's like reliving it with you. Thanks for taking the time to describe all the activities of that complex rail manifer step by step.

As you say, "Just another Day on the Railroad"!

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