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We just got back from our vacation.  We went to Washington, DC and New York City.  Went back there to to visit our daughter who lives in DC.  We watched her graduate with her Master's Degree.  And...she announced her engagement to her boyfriend of three years.  After we celebrated those things...we played tourist.  For a change of pace from the common tourist attractions in DC, we went to the Washington Navy Yard.  Inside the yard complex is the US Navy Museum.  It is located in a huge warehouse.  That was very cool.  Out in front of the museum entrance were all kinds of historic naval displays.  They included part of the propeller from the USS Main, cannon balls embedded in a side piece of one of the civil war ironsides, and various naval ship guns.  I saw this huge rail car cannon.  I wonder why the Navy had it.  Was it operated by them?

Matt

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Back in the day, all US sixteen and fourteen inch gun tubes were manufactured at the Navy Yard so you were looking at something built at the yard even if it didn't go on a BB.  I'm thinking that it was either a shore defense concept or a prototype tube design that was rail transported to Dahlgren for test firing and then brought back to the yard for postmortem.

 

Poppyl 

Thanks, Brad, for straightening me out on that.  I was totally focused on WW II and ignored WW I.  Still looking for the picture of the shore defense gun but did find that test gun tubes were barged to Dahlgren from the Yard.  Apparently no rail transport.

 

Sinclair -- there are plastic military models of the German WW II rail guns that might provide some parts that you could bash with a flatcar to "almost" get what you want.  However, I'm not sure that they are 1/48 scale and I'm also not sure what you could do to easily replicate the wheelsets of the subject railway gun.  Of course, neither factor may be that important for your application.

 

Poppyl

Originally Posted by BASEMENTBILL:

Ed, any guesstimates as to how much that behemoth weighs? The German's had one twice that size.

Wikipedia indicates that the gun weighed a little over 142 thousand pounds.  I do not know if that figure included the weight of the breech which may have added another 20-25 thousand pounds if not included in the weight.  That might explain the unique truck arrangement on the railcar.

 

FYI, the sixteen inch, 50 cal used on the Iowa class BBs weighed in at 268 thousand pounds (with breech).  There were three guns per battery and three batteries on the BB.  That's a lot of weight!

Poppyl

At the museum, there is a very nice display about these guns including movies of their being fired (see the you-tube videos above).  Baldwin and the Navy put these guns together in less than three months, shipped them and had them in operation in another three months.  Six to nine months to deploy into operation a new weapons system!  Given that the Navy had the experience because they had dozens in operation on ships that weren't involved in the war, it makes sense they got the job. 

 

The large guns were a key weapon in the trench warfare of WWI.  At the site of operation, track was laid in a curve; direction of fire was controlled by moving the gun along the track, but the cannon could be trained a few degrees within the mount for fine control.   Once sited along the curve, crews had to dig a pit between the rails for the breech to recoil into when it fired.  As suggested in the movie, each battery of guns was really a mobile team that was self-contained on a number of trains that contained crew quarters, supplies, etc..

 

I believe there are three rail guns in the US, the one at the Naval museum, there is a gun at Dalgren that is apparently is storage that was last used in the 1960's to test missile warheads.  There is a German gun that was assembled from parts from the famous Anizo Annie guns from WWII.  This gun, named "Leopold" was on display at Aberdeen Proving ground for many years (where it was tested after the war).  It was recently moved to Virginia where the Army's museum is being moved too.  The barrel for Leopold was moved by NS about two years ago.  

 

More recently, a number of 16-inch gun barrels were moved from Dalgren when they were surplussed to various museums.  At least one of these moved by rail/car float to Delaware. 

 

OT: the museum in DC, is a real treasure.  My favorite artifacts include pieces of a Japanese Zero that was shot down at Pearl Harbor and a piece of armor that was meant for a Yamato class (18-inch guns) battleship that was tested after the war.  It has a hole punched in it from an American 16-inch gun.

 

Bob 

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