@prrhorseshoecurve posted:You are getting confused with the H-15-44's. Those locomotives ARE NOT baby Trainmasters.
A baby Trainmaster looks like a Trainmaster but shorter in length.
Thanks for the clarification; I always confused the 4-axle versions for Baby Trainmasters. More FM locomotives in general would be welcome!
Baby Trainmasters are 4 axle. Look at the VGN they had both Baby and Trainmasters. The basic difference is lower HP, less axles and shorter but they weren’t Lowery style 4 axle engines.
When are you folks going to realize that those FM units were Train Masters? The term "Trainmaster" was a management position on the railroads, back then.
I thought Baby Train Masters were FM H16-66. There was a H16-44, but that was a different engine.
Also, the H16-66 was not given a name by the company like the H24-66 Train Master was. Rail fans, because of its close resemblance to the Train Master, gave the H16-66 the nickname "Baby Trainmaster". So I guess you can write it either way.
So, to eliminate any confusion, I recommend they just make the H20-44.
Id take four H16-44s.
Two in VGN & two in Milwaukee Road
Id also take H20-44 in Weyerhaeuser or PTS #122
@Hot Water posted:When are you folks going to realize that those FM units were Train Masters? The term "Trainmaster" was a management position on the railroads, back then.
@VGN64 posted:Baby Trainmasters are 4 axle.
No, they're not.
So-called railfan-named "baby" Train Masters were H16-66's and were nine feet shorter than the H24-66 Train Master, The -66 indicating 6 wheel trucks.
Only Milwaukee Road, C&NW, Squaw Creek Coal and Tennessee Valley Association rostered the H16-66.
Late model H16-44's were built with similar body to the Train Masters, but that didn't make them TM's, baby or otherwise.
The term "Baby Train Master" did not exist in FM documentation. Only the H24-66 bore the name Train Master.
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Rusty
Sorry if my comments offended anyone but here in the area of the VGN I grew up with them being called the Trainmasters-Train Masters (six axles and Baby Trainmasters-Baby Train Masters (four axles). I never saw FMs printed materials I just remember seeing the diesels painted N&W and photographing them in the stored/scrape line. Either way I would buy the six and four axles units made by Sunset.
Car Works made some of the four axles but never the VGN versions.
As I understand the evolution that led to the F-M Train Master, birthed with their entry 6 axle/6 motor road switcher, the H16-66, introduced in 1951. In 1953 the most powerful diesel locomotive was introduced as the H24-66 "Train Master". It was the hot rod of locomotives able to out accelerate any locomotive in its class. Seems like an icon locomotive any serious modeler would consider for their collection.
The VGN had two versions of the 6 axle Train Master. CLS did them but I missed them and have been looking for years but never see one.
Well the FP45 was just announced. Scott must have gotten lots of emails for it. Good follow on - fit with past passenger car offerings too. This should make the SF crowd happy - and others too of course. I get a pass on this offering and that gives my bank account a breather. But It also sound like Scott is firming up the Alco FA for 22. That’s Good for me in that it spreads out expenditures a bit later.
Cheers !!!
Once again I put forward the Diesel Hydraulics built by Alco for SP (C-643DH) and UP.*C-855). They are big, beefy brutes and have not been done in O gauge. Given these two popular road names I think they would sell well. I would take one of each.
Rolland
@RLaHaie posted:Once again I put forward the Diesel Hydraulics built by Alco for SP (C-643DH) and UP.*C-855). They are big, beefy brutes and have not been done in O gauge. Given these two popular road names I think they would sell well. I would take one of each.
Rolland
Have you checked with Sunset/3rd Rail? I seem to remember that Scott announced those models quite some time back. Then again, my memory isn't what it used to be.
Metroliners would be really cool. MTH offered them in one of their early catalogs, and cancelled the project. I think the Metroliners actually shared bodies with Amfleet Is, so there should be a base to work from after the Amfleets are delivered.
@TrainBub posted:I think it time to queue up a E5,6 Run#2. Offer up all the originals but add repaint later versions too. I’d be in for a MP in Jenks Blue. And an original MP would go wonderfully with an “Eagle” Consist.
(Perhaps this can be appended to the EA E1 offering to help reach aspired run numbers 😬)
Well - update time. Run 2 of the E5,6 is coming !!! Yay !!! Those that balked at getting a MP AB because there were no passenger cars will no longer have that excuse. 😬 (Very Few were done) The original paint schemes are a start but if you want later paint schemes, email Scott. Though the MP E6 must be done to match the EAGLE passenger set, I want to see a Jenks Blue offering too. IC snd RI have interesting later paint jobs too. Cheers.
Fwiw, I would like to see the Seaboard E4 AB that demoed at the NY Worlds Fair with all that red and stainless striping for this order.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Fwiw, I would like to see the Seaboard E4 AB that demoed at the NY Worlds Fair with all that red and stainless striping for this order.
Umm, weren't those done?
I would love if they did the FP-7 again.
Rock Island 4-8-4. One of the most handsome ever built. Request #274 !!
@rdunniii posted:Umm, weren't those done?
I think the OP is referring to the lone E3 that Seaboard purchased that spent it's first almost year at the world's fair in silver paint with fine red stripes. It went back to EMD and was upgraded to an E6 and came back in the scheme that was done for the balance of the world's fair.
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