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Speaking of really big Hudsons . . . Has anyone made modern (PS2, Legacy) scale models of the Alco F-7 or E-4 as made for Milwaukee Road and Chicago and North Western, or Baldwin's 1942 L-2 and L-2a as made for C&O?  These were apparently the heaviest and biggest Hudsons ever made - and since all were made in 1938 - 1942, they were contemporaries of the Baldwin ATSF 3460s and the Lima NYC J3s - so among the most advanced designs, too. 

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MTH has done the Milwaukee Road F-7 Baltic 4-6-4 a total of four times: twice in Premier, once with PS/2 and once with PS/3; and twice in Rail King, once with a choice of PS-1 or just a whistle, and once with PS/2. If you are looking for a PS/3 Premier engine, you need to be careful; the most recent version was cataloged with PS/3 but this was when MTH was making the switch from PS/2 to PS/3 and there have been reports that some models shipped under the new stock number had the older system. 

 

I have the Premier with PS/2 and the RK with PS/1. Both are good running engines. The Premier engine had to have its speaker replaced after a few years; it was among the many MTH engines whose speakers deteriorated. Fortunately it was a cheap, easy repair. Here's a picture of the Premier engine.

 

 

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Oh that is a nice engine.  And the fact that is was almost certainly the fastest Hudson ever built over here, maybe anywhere (okay, the fastest it went was 3 mph less than Mallard, but . . . )makes it a must-have.   Gotta find one of those.  

 

Does anyone know if it was ever used, even once, to pull the City of Los Angeles?  I know Milwaukee Road ran those for UP for a while.  That would be even better.  I gotta lot of UP stuff.

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Actually, nobody knows how fast the F7 was. The speedometer only went to 120 and the engine went faster - probably closer to 130, perhaps even a bit more. Engineers buried the speedometer fairly often in service, although it was against the rules. Its unstreamlined predecessor, the F6, set a speed record on a stretch between Chicago and Milwaukee while the railroad was testing the feasibility of faster schedules for the Hiawatha. 
 
The F7 could not have been used on the City trains. The big Baltics were retired before the Milwaukee took over the Omaha-Chicago leg from the C&NW.  
 
You'll enjoy a Hiawatha 4-6-4 if you decide to get one. I saw one with PS/3 for sale the other day - I think it was on the Buy/Sell board, but it might have been eBay. The only correct cars for it are the set Weaver made about ten or twelve years ago. They are full scale length (20"). Lionel's 18" Hiawatha cars are, unfortunately, painted in much brighter colors than the MTH engine and they only look good with the Lionel 4-4-2. The colors clash badly with the MTH paint job (which is much closer to prototypical). 
 
Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

Oh that is a nice engine.  And the fact that is was almost certainly the fastest Hudson ever built over here, maybe anywhere (okay, the fastest it went was 3 mph less than Mallard, but . . . )makes it a must-have.   Gotta find one of those.  

 

Does anyone know if it was ever used, even once, to pull the City of Los Angeles?  I know Milwaukee Road ran those for UP for a while.  That would be even better.  I gotta lot of UP stuff.

 

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