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Hi,

Can anyone recommend a strong epoxy capable of bonding medal side fairings off the trucks of a MTH subway.

As you can see, siding broke clean off the truck. Crazy glue holds but doesn't bond well as it easily can break off.

Appreciate any input. See pictures - first 3 show damage...

Thanks in advance.

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BucksCo posted:

If you really want them to stay on you should drill holes and insert brass rods to "pin them in place. 2 pins per side and epoxy glue. I use devcon epoxy glue.

Getting the holes drilled with the precision sufficient for good alignment is not easy in a piece like this.  If you screw up the alignment even a small amount, you get a lousy result.

Given the rough nature of the material in the break, JB-Weld will be more than sufficient to bond these permanently, and the job will be very easy.  For this kind of repair, I'd also rough up the lower hidden side and have a small build-up of JB-Weld to strengthen the structure, though that is probably not necessary.

Another vote for JB Weld. The only thing I would add is a couple of brass plates around .020" thick over the whole support. It should still clear the engine frame when mounted. Redrill the holes for the sideframes after the adhesive has set. Butt joints are the weakest so any reinforcement will help a lot. File or sand off the paint before doing this.

 

Pete

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I typically use JB-Weld, but other 2-part epoxy brands seem to be just as good. 

Don't know about ABS/epoxy combo, but I know from experience - and frustration of having to do it over with something else - that JB-Weld (and I assume other similar - probably identical - brands) does not like to stick to styrene. I attached some new, clean styrene (Evergreen) fixed large, flat parts (on a diesel pilot)  I used JB-Weld. Cured for 24 hours.

They peeled right off; the epoxy did not stick to the styrene.

Wound up using Walthers Goo - which was fine, no problem - but I don't use epoxy on styrene any more. A friend of mine later said that he had a similar experience.

If you have already tried super glue, then you will have to clean the super glue residue off somehow. Otherwise, the epoxy will attach to the super glue and break at the same spot. The super glue will fill the pores of the metal and keep the epoxy from bonding.

Many repairs have been made more difficult, or even impossible, by a miscalculation/misstep on the first try.

I use J B Weld epoxy glue for repair of metal but the best filled epoxy for metal repair is the more putty like old timer, Marine Tex.  Marine Tex epoxy is filled with non metal fumed silica or something similar.

Marine Tex has been used to repair aluminum boats for years and I repaired a 12 inch long by 1/2 inch under water gash in a boat in the early 1960s that lasted 20 years until I sold it.

Marine Tex has been used to repair cracks and holes in engine blocks, transmission and differential housings with success for years.  Lots of smart boat owners never leave shore with out a pint or so.

Marine Tex is more putty like and will stick to a vertical surface better and fill gaps better than J B.  It also is much harder and will mold parts and hold a cut thread better than J B.  I can easily cut and carve J B with a knife and Marine Tex must be filed. 

I recently repaired a die cast bearing seal cap or 60 year old 24 inch Delta jigsaw.  The cap had disintegrated and had missing pieces and I had to fill in the voids. 

Marine Tex can now be purchased at good boat dealers, and now even Walmart, Amazon, Ebay etc. but costs about twice as much as J B Weld.  Both epoxies and most glues will last longer after opened if one stores them in a refrigerator.

Another Epoxy Putty to consider is Devcon Plastic Steel 5 Minute Epoxy Putty.  I have used it and it is very similar to Marine Tex.  It is steel filled and good to 350 F.  The box gives instructions for machining with a lathe.  ITW Devcon makes epoxy putties filled with several other metals and ceramics.

Charlie

 

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