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chris a posted:

Finally updated the firmware/software in my Legacy Base and 2 CAB2's to the V1.6 that I purchased during the recent Lionel parts sale in November.   Second controller seems to be playing nice and operating without the glitches...

Had to remove and replace my engine service "departure track" as the spacing wasn't correct for the new to me  GGD Ogle Coaling tower.  Ended up removing a LH Ross Regular switch and replacing it with a cut down  Ross 096 LH switch to get the track spacing right.  Ironically the 096 is a much smoother transition than the Ross regular which is pretty abrubt at the points.  Then I bent 2 full Gargraves sections to make smooth transitional curves from the turnout to the turntable.   Made some "concrete foundation piers" for the Ogle Coaling tower legs to sit  and finished weathering them this afternoon.    

While I was there I took a couple of photos from places I don't normally get to with the camera and tripod.   Figured it was best not to fill up the whole page with photos, so most are attached below.

 

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Chris,

Some great work here! The scenes and your angles are bringing the best out of your layout. Thanks for sharing.

Dave

Good Morning Fine Model Railroaders,

I finally took the time to weather and detail a few row houses complete with window treatments. The only thing left to do is put some furniture and mats on a few of the porches and add the lighting once they are placed on their respective places on the layout. Until I get a workbench, this area of the layout serves that purpose.

Dave

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luvindemtrains posted:

Good Morning Fine Model Railroaders,

I finally took the time to weather and detail a few row houses complete with window treatments. The only thing left to do is put some furniture and mats on a few of the porches and add the lighting once they are placed on their respective places on the layout. Until I get a workbench, this area of the layout serves that purpose.

Dave

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Row House 4

I bought a few of these when Weaver made them I repainted mine and weathered them to. Good looking work and your track weathering is also great.

mike g. posted:

So I have a question and I hope someone here can help me out. I am getting my parts from Shapeway today and it says to soak in acetone. I don't have any so I was wondering if paint thinner is the same thing. I don't want to wreck the parts and they are not cheap!

I hope everyone has a great weekend and find time for there trains and layouts!

Mike, Acetone is not the same as a typical paint thinner!  Nail polish remover is basically acetone.   Some plastic parts will dissolve in acetone!   I believe that Shapeway prints 3D parts in a nylon plastic.   Nylon plastic is resistant to acetone.   I purchased all-weather cab windows from Shapeway to detail my DM&IR diesel units.    I never got a message about soaking them in acetone.    They painted up just fine.   Would like to know more about the parts you are referring to and the reason why they tell you to soak them.   Anybody else have experience with Shapeway's detail parts?

Cheers, Dave

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Ollie and I ran some trains after getting some track switched out. I found some of the K-line O-27 Super K straights at a show last weekend and added them. We had the curves already, but found the straights. I personally really like the look of them.

BTW, if any of you have more and are looking to get rid of it. Let me know! ;-)

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Paul,  looking good even though you are now just showing off and rubbing it in.  For those wondering how my module is going it is on hold as I have a tear in my rotator cuff from work when some kids were running in the halls and ran right into it.  Paul has graciously said he would help me carry my module in and out of the venue on the 15th so I can still show it.  

btw:  Are you going to add any people to this or just leave it 100% nature.  If you don't like people I think scenic express sells ducks and some wildlife. 

Hi Guys 

Just to bring you up to date on the Waxhaw division in NC, the track work on the upper levels has now been completed. I still have some work to do with the railking bridge piers to set those and attache permanently. In a month Next step will be to do the wiring for track power and run a train into those spurs.

Now we are working with the Northport division. We  a Union station that ties the upper and lower levels together. I wanted to add some railings along the upper level to cap the wall. Rix sells a 1930s style concrete  highway railing but it is HO scale. Thinking of raising it  up a bit on a strip of wood or foam to simulate a bass and put the railings atop that . Couple of photos showing the planning. Think this will wok out. Will paint the rails in aged concrete . Think it will look nice here.

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Bryan in Ohio posted:

Paul,  looking good even though you are now just showing off and rubbing it in.  For those wondering how my module is going it is on hold as I have a tear in my rotator cuff from work when some kids were running in the halls and ran right into it.  Paul has graciously said he would help me carry my module in and out of the venue on the 15th so I can still show it.  

btw:  Are you going to add any people to this or just leave it 100% nature.  If you don't like people I think scenic express sells ducks and some wildlife. 

Teaching, you gotta love it!

luvindemtrains posted:

Good Morning Fine Model Railroaders,

I finally took the time to weather and detail a few row houses complete with window treatments. The only thing left to do is put some furniture and mats on a few of the porches and add the lighting once they are placed on their respective places on the layout. Until I get a workbench, this area of the layout serves that purpose.

Dave

Row House 7

Row House 4

The houses look excellent, Dave!

John

darlander posted:
mike g. posted:

So I have a question and I hope someone here can help me out. I am getting my parts from Shapeway today and it says to soak in acetone. I don't have any so I was wondering if paint thinner is the same thing. I don't want to wreck the parts and they are not cheap!

I hope everyone has a great weekend and find time for there trains and layouts!

Mike, Acetone is not the same as a typical paint thinner!  Nail polish remover is basically acetone.   Some plastic parts will dissolve in acetone!   I believe that Shapeway prints 3D parts in a nylon plastic.   Nylon plastic is resistant to acetone.   I purchased all-weather cab windows from Shapeway to detail my DM&IR diesel units.    I never got a message about soaking them in acetone.    They painted up just fine.   Would like to know more about the parts you are referring to and the reason why they tell you to soak them.   Anybody else have experience with Shapeway's detail parts?

Cheers, Dave

Hi Dave, they are 3d parts from Shapeways and that is what the instructions say to do. Soak for 15 minutes in acetone and then was with dish soap.

Yesterday I crawled back under the layout to get to the access hole underneath my mammoth mountain ( Mt. Randolph ).  This involved moving several storage boxes which I keep under the layout table.  Once in position I was able to remove 5 freight cars which had derailed inside the tunnel which were  fouling the main line.

I installed new batteries in one of my hand held TMCC remotes.  Reprogrammed the C&O  0-8-0 and let it run on the main line.  Changed out some trains and just sat back and let them run, while taking it all in.  Good times!!  

Here's a video of the trains  running last night. 

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RSJB18 posted:

CHRISTMAS TREE IS UP!

MORE TRAINS SOON........

2018

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RSJB18, I really like that BL-2.  Their unusual looks really appeal to me.  I wish someone would make one in PRR livery (and yes, I'm aware that the prototype PRR didn't have any).

As for me, no, I haven't done much with the layout itself, apart from righting a few trees that Catzilla knocked over during an unauthorized expedition.  Mostly, I've been running my Lionel 783, which I've been slowly upgrading to 700E configuration,  Most recently, I put a 700E pilot truck on it.

Johan. great pic. You are really going to town to make the layout look better then it already is.

Today I did a course change. Scenery wise I can't do much on the module I am working on till my order from Scenic Express comes in. So I went back to the last building fronts I put up and took the last one down, recut it and glued it higher. Then took one long building front and put that in front. In that area will be a number of grain silos and a Korber 3D building. I glued the plastic film on the back of the windows and when the glue dries I'll paint them like I did the others building flats. Then start gluing the building together. Pics............Paul 2

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Johan. great pic. You are really going to town to make the layout look better then it already is.

Today I did a course change. Scenery wise I can't do much on the module I am working on till my order from Scenic Express comes in. So I went back to the last building fronts I put up and took the last one down, recut it and glued it higher. Then took one long building front and put that in front. In that area will be a number of grain silos and a Korber 3D building. I glued the plastic film on the back of the windows and when the glue dries I'll paint them like I did the others building flats. Then start gluing the building together. Pics............Paul 2

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Paul. Thank you. After grass comes trees & bushes. 

Johan

Painted the plastic on the windows. Then I forgot I had a piece of flat slate I found in the driveway next door. I took it and broke it into a couple of pieces and glued them down for a ledge for fishermen which I have ordered. Next order of business put the Korber kit together and get some more PVC for the silos. Pics.......Paul 2

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Haven't posted much on the Forum lately because I've been busy with work, recovering from a bad cold, and working a lot on the layout.

I believe working on the layout is helping me recover from my illness. I noticed that I coughed a lot less when totally focused on installing new  Heavy Duty Atlas Connectors for my 8 independently powered sidings. This was totally engrossing because the wiring for my conventional layout is a mess to begin with. LOL.

The good news is that it's less of a mess now, but still a mess, although everything is running fine. LOL

I had a problem with the new Atlas Connectors. When I used my 20 gauge bell wire, the little screws that go into the sockets wouldn't catch. I then used 20 Gauge Stranded wire, and most, but not all, of the screws would catch. 

The screws also did not catch when using the small metal tabs that go between the Atlas Connectors so that several of the Connectors could be powered from 1 power source. I believe this problem with the screws not catching was caused by a defect in the sockets. 

For many years I have used Atlas Connectors designed for HO trains for my sidings and accessories. I never had this problem with them.

I decided to solder some of the wires to the new Connectors. I got a lot of practice soldering (something I've tried to avoid), my soldering skills and confidence doing it is better, and everything seems securely fastened, so the problem with the screws not catching turned out to be a good thing.

Here's a picture of my Atlas Connectors, the new heavy duty ones for the sidings are on top, and the old ones on the bottom are for the accessories; the controls on the left side are for the O22 switch tracks:

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Balshis posted:
RSJB18 posted:

CHRISTMAS TREE IS UP!

MORE TRAINS SOON........

2018

2018-12-16 19.40.12

RSJB18, I really like that BL-2.  Their unusual looks really appeal to me.  I wish someone would make one in PRR livery (and yes, I'm aware that the prototype PRR didn't have any).

As for me, no, I haven't done much with the layout itself, apart from righting a few trees that Catzilla knocked over during an unauthorized expedition.  Mostly, I've been running my Lionel 783, which I've been slowly upgrading to 700E configuration,  Most recently, I put a 700E pilot truck on it.

Seems you either love the BL-2 or hate it. Never seen a PRR either but Bangor and Arostook- @BAR GP7 #63 has a beauty,  Monon, and a couple other lines. I have it in the demonstrator paint scheme by MTH that I need to unpack.

EMD designed it to compete with the ALCO RS series but it never caught on. The GEEP soon replaced it.

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Arnold, I used the Atlas switches and connectors in the past.  After years at work using crimp on lugs, I use them almost everywhere at home.  I did have to buy new wire stripper and crimper tools because of my arthritis.  About the only time I put the bare wire under a screw is for temporary connections, and lately I bought some alligator clip leads at Harbor Freight for that.  I also have had plenty of soldering experience going back 45 years, but still hate soldering.  
I guess all that is to say there are a lot of different methods and as I age, I re-evaluate which to use.

Afternoon guy! 

Between ripping out the ceiling in one bedroom and helping the HVAC guy I was able to get out to the train room and remove some track for relocation and the addition of another spur. I am moving my out side siding closer to the inside one to give more room for buildings between the inside main and the outside siding. 

The spur I am adding is so I can move my Crane from the inside main line to the front of the layout for the grandkids to be able to see better and enjoy it much more!

Great work everyone!

Paul, I really like how you stay busy with your layout and module!

Jim, I love those BNSF!

Patrick and Johan, both great looking scenes!

Lew, sorry no photos, maybe tomorrow! I know until then it didn't happen!

Working on the renovations of my former catenary poles. A lot of clean up, and getting some updated parts too. These have been in storage since 2005 when I sold the former layout (catenary was not liked by new owner, so stored). I was at my friends house and he asked me if I wanted them back as I was making a new version of the former layout. YES! I will use them again!IMG_0306IMG_0303Today's work included continuation of cleaning of close to 15 years of dirt and dust, gathering broken pieces, cleaning up some rust making clean surfaces for soldering, the bottle of liquid flux and low heat solder arrived this week plus the K&S 1/4 in square tubing for some horozontal replacement arms, a couple of packages of code 100 scale railjoiners, just need some brass tubing for angle bracing, and a couple of new fine solder iron tips. Getting ready for the recovery phase!

Last night i ran my Lionel postwar New Haven EP5 for probably the last time via center rail  track power! 

More advancements into the power above to come.

Leroof

 

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luvindemtrains posted:

Good Morning Fine Model Railroaders,

I finally took the time to weather and detail a few row houses complete with window treatments. The only thing left to do is put some furniture and mats on a few of the porches and add the lighting once they are placed on their respective places on the layout. Until I get a workbench, this area of the layout serves that purpose.

Dave

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The houses look excellent, Dave!

John

picked acouple of these up at Lionel Warehouse sale. Like what you have done with weathering

 

I have been playing around with basic weathering on some of my rolling stock. Most of this is achieved with simple chalks. Here are a couple of before and after pictures. 

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And a hi-cube:

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And tonight ai did a quick chalk job (no painting) on a few more hi-cubes:

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Then got to enjoy them a bit with my kids, since that’s what it’s all about!

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Today what I did on the layout was learn an important lesson. I have a removable bridge to allow me to get in the middle section. (The boys just duck under)

I needed to move an engine to test something and wasn't paying attention and turned to look at something on my work bench. I hear the breaker pop, train go into shutdown, and turn around to find this.

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Lesson 1. Put the bridge back in.
Lesson 2. Keep an eye on the trains
Lesson 3. Put the bridge back in.

Fortunately nothing damaged, maybe pride a bit... but it got stuck on the lip and the the tender and the passenger car behind it held it on the layout. Other than that we set up the train under the Christmas tree.

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RSJB18 posted:
Balshis posted:
RSJB18 posted:

CHRISTMAS TREE IS UP!

MORE TRAINS SOON........

2018

2018-12-16 19.40.12

RSJB18, I really like that BL-2.  Their unusual looks really appeal to me.  I wish someone would make one in PRR livery (and yes, I'm aware that the prototype PRR didn't have any).

As for me, no, I haven't done much with the layout itself, apart from righting a few trees that Catzilla knocked over during an unauthorized expedition.  Mostly, I've been running my Lionel 783, which I've been slowly upgrading to 700E configuration,  Most recently, I put a 700E pilot truck on it.

Seems you either love the BL-2 or hate it. Never seen a PRR either but Bangor and Arostook- @BAR GP7 #63 has a beauty,  Monon, and a couple other lines. I have it in the demonstrator paint scheme by MTH that I need to unpack.

EMD designed it to compete with the ALCO RS series but it never caught on. The GEEP soon replaced it.

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Bob. Nice looking demonstrator, many years ago i got that on PS1 -version. I really like also a Saratoga & Northcreek -version, they are an ex -BAR locomotives and now on sale.

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mike g. posted:

Lou, Looks great!

Lew I ran out and got you some photos! So you wouldn't have to wait till morning! LOLIMG_20191207_152954462Inkedmike 12-02-2019_LI

Mike- looks like you have room to add a second short spur to store empties. Once you deliver loaded cars to the crane you can pull the empties.  Another short spur to the right could serve another industry.

You could give Lew's Plywood Empire Route a run for his money!

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Lou, things are looking great at the service building!

Kevin, nice work on the weathering.

Aldover, Lucky you! You might think about putting in a isolated track section that only gets power when the bridge is in!

Johan, wonderful scene!

Bob, I was thinking about saving that area for buildings, but I also like your idea!

Mark Boyce posted:

Johan, the extra greenery really makes for an even better scene.

Pat, my two bad legs started to hurt more just reading about your trek to the Bowles of Mt Randolph yo recover a derailment!!

Jim, the two engines look great!

Mark, sorry I didn't mean for your legs to begin hurting more.  Adding insult to injury ... I have to crawl back there again today to fix another derailment LOL!!   According to the FRRA inspector on the scene ... the cause of this second derailment was not the same as the prior derailment LOL!   I thank my lucky stars when building the layout I had the foresight to cut an access hole to fix these sort of infrequent ( now 2 derailments within a week ... I hope this is not the beginning of a trend ) mishaps which might happen once every few months. 

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mike g. posted:

Lou, things are looking great at the service building!

Kevin, nice work on the weathering.

Aldover, Lucky you! You might think about putting in a isolated track section that only gets power when the bridge is in!

Johan, wonderful scene!

Bob, I was thinking about saving that area for buildings, but I also like your idea!

Mike. Thank you Sir. 🤝

Johan

trumptrain posted:
Mark Boyce posted:

Johan, the extra greenery really makes for an even better scene.

Pat, my two bad legs started to hurt more just reading about your trek to the Bowles of Mt Randolph yo recover a derailment!!

Jim, the two engines look great!

Mark, sorry I didn't mean for your legs to begin hurting more.  Adding insult to injury ... I have to crawl back there again today to fix another derailment LOL!!   According to the FRRA inspector on the scene ... the cause of this second derailment was not the same as the prior derailment LOL!   I thank my lucky stars when building the layout I had the foresight to cut an access hole to fix these sort of infrequent ( now 2 derailments within a week ... I hope this is not the beginning of a trend ) mishaps which might happen once every few months. 

Pat, LOL!  I’m sorry you have to do it again, but glad you provided for access!!!

Worked on the korber building flat. Got the sidewalls glued on along with the wood bracing. Placed for the time being where it will be positioned. The open space above it will be filled with another building flat I have plus I ned to get more PVC pipe to make up more silos. Still have to put in all the windows and paint the loading doors or maybe I'll leave them the color they are, put on the roof, and the loading dock. There is always tomorrow. Suppose to be a rain day ( I hope ). Pics.............Paul 2

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I decided to make a chain of command sign for my Railway operating unit, as I have a new Quonset Hut from Menards on the way. The commanding officer is named after my nephew, a real-life former Army captain. He has the same last name as mine, so I used his first initial and middle name. The first sergeant was named after one of my oldest friends, a good pal of mine in Florida and a fellow Model Railroader (who recently has taken huge to 3 rail)...

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I decided to make a chain of command sign for my Railway operating unit, as I have a new Quonset Hut from Menards on the way. The commanding officer is named after my nephew, a real-life former Army captain. He has the same last name as mine, so I used his first initial and middle name.

He doesn't drive a Haunted Tank, does he?   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haunted_Tank

Mitch 

paul 2 posted:

Worked on the korber building flat. Got the sidewalls glued on along with the wood bracing. Placed for the time being where it will be positioned. The open space above it will be filled with another building flat I have plus I ned to get more PVC pipe to make up more silos. Still have to put in all the windows and paint the loading doors or maybe I'll leave them the color they are, put on the roof, and the loading dock. There is always tomorrow. Suppose to be a rain day ( I hope ). Pics.............Paul 2

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Looks like good progress, Paul.  Yes they forecast rain all day for us, so I suspect you would get it too!

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:
p51 posted:

I decided to make a chain of command sign for my Railway operating unit, as I have a new Quonset Hut from Menards on the way. The commanding officer is named after my nephew, a real-life former Army captain. He has the same last name as mine, so I used his first initial and middle name.

He doesn't drive a Haunted Tank, does he?   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haunted_Tank

Mitch 

Funny you should say that. I've actually appeared in a DC comic book, as a fictional character, standing right next to the commander of that tank.

My brother's name is Jeb Stuart Bishop. Named after the Confederate Cavalry General. His son, my nephew, is named Jackson Stewart Bishop.

It was a limited series by DC Comics called Sergeant Rock and the lost Battalion, in which the crew of The Haunted tank appear. I assisted the writer and artist with some historical advice, and I was rewarded by appearing in the comic book as an actual character. I don't know whether my brother finds it really cool or if he is insanely jealous that I actually appeared in his favorite comic book of all time, next to the very character he always liked.

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I haven’t seen Sgt Rock or the Haunted Tank for.... oh, too many years! 

Back to the layout. I had a session sorting out track pins, UCS and cut-to-fit sections on the O27 door layout, and made some minor track changes to provide a bit more siding space. I’ve ordered a sheet of 3mm closed-cell foam and some 12mm screws and I’ll progress the track fixing now. 

Today I completed the electrical hookup of the LED lighting in the scrapyard area.  The warm white LEDs were purchased from www.pghtrainfanatic.com.  Nick Futules is great to work with and at $1.25 per LED, they comes complete with lead wires and resistors attached for 9volt DC power, you can beat it for the price and ease of instillation.   Also he has a great web site and several videos to capture your interest.  He does a lot of neat things with LED applications.  It’s a great place for inspiration and wonderful ideas.   Check it out!

I have added ground cover and some greenery to this area but need to work on more shrubbery and scrap detail.  I’m also in the process of constructing the outlet road for this area.  

Happy Holidays and cheers to all!   Dave

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Hi guys- busy weekend getting all the decorations up. Finished up last night and put all the boxes and storage bins back up in the attic. I plan to get the track down under the tree tonight. I have to evict the cat first.

In between decorating I did some more cleaning on my M-10000

Dave- that yard looks great. I like how you mixed operating accessories with the flats and loading docks. The lighting looks great too. I think you may have inspired Mike on his scrap yard project.

Paul- the flats and module are coming along nicely. Good to have an alternate project to work on when waiting for stuff to dry.

Lee- How cool to be immortalized in a comic book !

Bob

 

Morning guys great looking work!

I was able to get out to the train room yesterday morning and laid down some temp track to check the operation of my ac4400, it doesn't like tight curves with the fixed pilot. I had to take the Kadee coupler off and do a little modification and grind open the side of the coupler box to get more swing out of it. put it back on and tested it and it worked ok, but I think I need to do a little more.

Lee, Congrats on the build and comic book !

Paul, you sure know how to make things look ease! wonderful work!

Dave, the scrap yard looks great and is really pushing me more towards adding that second track next to the crane!

Brian, fun looking Photo!

I hope you all have a wonderful Monday and find time for your layout and trains!

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I got my trolley loop together and powered up, fixed a power glitch, and worked on some details for the elevated stop. Next comes the parking area for the stop and some green space.

Interestingly enow, Balmer and Philly are two towns where the prototype streetcars ran on broad gauge tracks, just like O gauge tracks are in 1:48 scale...  ;-) 

Mitch 

Vincent Massi posted:
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What a wonderful place to live!!!

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Vince, the trailer is intended to be the yard office for the crane.   I guess it needs Office signage!   Because of your comment maybe a Vacancy/No Vacancy option might also work!  

Cheers, Dave

I believe you, Dave. But it just seems like such a nice place to live.

It reminds me of when I worked in power substations and the company hired contract electricians.  Most buddied up in cheap motels, but one got permission to bring his camper trailer into the substation and stay there all week.

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Happy Holidays folk!

Just poppin in just once to say hi for the holidays; no replies for a while again. Cell tower coverage changes left my house in a gap, so no net for a bit longer. This is more about what I've been doing since Aug., like finishing the new bottom level (above is not quite there)...

well, thats it.....

I can't load more than one pic, figures the attach. tool is "stuck"  

There is  military paint job on a 2-4-2, and a battery operated O gauge but closer to S scale 0-6-0  loco bashed into a porter length 0-4-0, and a Kusan atomic reactor car and Army command caboose, then bashed rescue/exploratory submarine. I painted a police inflatable boat and outboard motor ($1 store toys /sm. toy soldier size) and a squad of about 5 officers for the lower level police station (they commandeered the firehouse office a few days ago)  

(The building still reverts to a 2 story barn )

There is a "floating" middle level too; supported by a few 1/4 rods off the leg braces; but it has no  real scenery yet.

Wait until you can see the "train wash" poot forth it's frothy foam of cleanliness Mitch  .

Oh, some HO too. HO-3rail "Junior" track (Hornby?...Lionel OO? Ties look OO) And a cool Marx HO Rock Island switcher set. Free 😁

 

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Happy Holidays folk!

Just poppin in just once to say hi for the holidays; no replies for a while again. Cell tower coverage changes left my house in a gap, so no net for a bit longer. This is more about what I've been doing since Aug., like finishing the new bottom level (above is not quite there)...

 

Been wonderin' what you were up to! 

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