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Hi Lew, I don't think there is a adjustment for the motor, but I will look again!

Ray, that looks Amazing!

Mark, good idea on letting it melt! If you have a problem with the crane SELL it to Lee! He enjoys fixing and redoing things! LOL

Lee I couldn't resist!

Johan, what a great scene! You always post something just wonderful!

Well I got out to the train room this morning before my HOA meeting and got some work done on my parts I painted lastnight. I painted the white edge on the steps and uncoupler bars. Then I cut off the bolsters the use to be there for the old claw couplers! Couple of photos for your enjoyment!IMG_20200208_070332001IMG_20200208_070301239IMG_20200208_070316089

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mike g. posted:

Hi Lew, I don't think there is a adjustment for the motor, but I will look again!

Ray, that looks Amazing!

Mark, good idea on letting it melt! If you have a problem with the crane SELL it to Lee! He enjoys fixing and redoing things! LOL

Lee I couldn't resist!

Johan, what a great scene! You always post something just wonderful!

Well I got out to the train room this morning before my HOA meeting and got some work done on my parts I painted lastnight. I painted the white edge on the steps and uncoupler bars. Then I cut off the bolsters the use to be there for the old claw couplers! Couple of photos for your enjoyment!IMG_20200208_070332001IMG_20200208_070301239IMG_20200208_070316089

Mike. You're welcome. I am glad you like it. 👍

Johan

I am painting leftover figures from my pervious passenger car detailing.  I have seven partial boxes of 36 left to go.  (Not pictured in addition to what is pictured.) 

Then I start the twelve new/unopened boxes of 36 Preiser 65602 Seated figures.  I came up for air and to walk around after sitting at the kitchen table for two hours.

Six Canadian Pacific 21" passenger cars are supposedly on their way to me.

Have a good weekend.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

I post to verify my existence.  

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mike g. posted:

Hi Lew, I don't think there is a adjustment for the motor, but I will look again!

Ray, that looks Amazing!

Mark, good idea on letting it melt! If you have a problem with the crane SELL it to Lee! He enjoys fixing and redoing things! LOL

Lee I couldn't resist!

Johan, what a great scene! You always post something just wonderful!

Well I got out to the train room this morning before my HOA meeting and got some work done on my parts I painted lastnight. I painted the white edge on the steps and uncoupler bars. Then I cut off the bolsters the use to be there for the old claw couplers! Couple of photos for your enjoyment!IMG_20200208_070332001IMG_20200208_070301239IMG_20200208_070316089

That’s gonna look nice Mike

as long as the price is around Free or flea market price I’ll take it to fix up lol

with all the great work going on here in this thread, its inspiring to keep at it. So back up to the layout room this morning for another turn at the plaster cloth. The area we are working on is on the left side of the water feature and the terrain  should slope to the water . There are track bridges at three levels. 

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I used a combination of solid white foam pieces, some pieces on a slope and newspaper to stuff the openings and help with the slope. The confined area  made it a bit difficult to work with the wet cloth. I found out that you could also wet the area and then apply the cloth as it would absorb the moisture. A paper towel with some moisture in can also aid wetting the cloth in theses area. 

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I was liking the ideas that Bob RSJB18 had with using printed materials. I had a similar application for the Bridge supports on my water feature area . So managed to print some stone and apply it to the 1 by 4s that were the bridge supports before today. 

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Mark Boyce posted:

Mike, I'll let it melt. 

Mike, Lew, Lee, I got out my gantry crane and have to apologize.  It is not the postwar, but is Lionel 6-12700 from 1987.  I'm going to set it up on the workbench, because I think there was one function I had trouble with.

Ray, the real parts mockup looks great!!  It is just like we were discussing at of all places my Thursday morning breakfast-Bible study.  We get on a variety of topics while waiting for the food and when we start eating.  One was about one of the guys mentioning being in New York, and driving a steer and the elevated line seemed to go on forever.  I have never been to NYC or Chicago, but I have been to Philly once back in the '80s and saw theirs.  Anyway, the remark was made about the residents and hotel guests having to listen to the trains right outside their windows.  Your mockup is like what they were talking about.

yes ..Mark and Lew, these were terrible if you stayed at a hotel near them or worse had to live by one, I only remember New York way back, very noisy and rough riding.

But in '67 was in Montreal when they first had their rubber tired Metro, what a difference and very clean and quiet. I haven't been back so don't know how they have held up over the years.

Mike g, the flats are O gauge. They are alittle pricey but I think they are worth the price. They come on paper so I glued them to foamboard using 3M adhesive spray. Directions said not to use white glue.

Today I started playing with the new building flats. Adding the silos to the one flat and just placing the others along the wall to see what works. The PVC pipe I had left in shorter heights I put along a siding on another table. Also started to add washes to the walls of the machine shop. Looks like what I really wanted to do with the area left is difinately not going to work. So as they say.......back to the drawing board..Pics.....Paul 2

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LIRR Steamer posted:
 

I was liking the ideas that Bob RSJB18 had with using printed materials. I had a similar application for the Bridge supports on my water feature area . So managed to print some stone and apply it to the 1 by 4s that were the bridge supports before today. 

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Looks good Happy to share my tips and tricks.

I like the whole scene! Really starting to shape up.

Bob

Mike, I took some pics of a "spare" 282 motor to show the gear-lash adjustment.

 

Notice the taper of the motor mounting pad (motor is upside down):

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And the slotted mounting screw holes to allow the motor to slide on the pad that is machined into the crane metal baseplate:

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So because the motor (and thus the worm) is tilted wrt the mounting pad, as you move the motor back-and-forth the worm gets closer/farther from the worm-pinion and the lash becomes less/more. The question is, does the 182 motor do the same thing or was this a design improvement between the 182 and the newer 282 Crane?

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paul 2 posted:

Mike g, the flats are O gauge. They are alittle pricey but I think they are worth the price. They come on paper so I glued them to foamboard using 3M adhesive spray. Directions said not to use white glue.

Today I started playing with the new building flats. Adding the silos to the one flat and just placing the others along the wall to see what works. The PVC pipe I had left in shorter heights I put along a siding on another table. Also started to add washes to the walls of the machine shop. Looks like what I really wanted to do with the area left is difinately not going to work. So as they say.......back to the drawing board..Pics.....Paul 2

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Paul:

I have looked at the same buildings before on Trackside Scenery's web site. Now that I see them as you display them on your layout, I am going to purchase one for an area in which I was going to make my own building flat. The really are nice.

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with all the great work going on here in this thread, its inspiring to keep at it. So back up to the layout room this morning for another turn at the plaster cloth. The area we are working on is on the left side of the water feature and the terrain  should slope to the water . There are track bridges at three levels. 

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I used a combination of solid white foam pieces, some pieces on a slope and newspaper to stuff the openings and help with the slope. The confined area  made it a bit difficult to work with the wet cloth. I found out that you could also wet the area and then apply the cloth as it would absorb the moisture. A paper towel with some moisture in can also aid wetting the cloth in theses area. 

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I was liking the ideas that Bob RSJB18 had with using printed materials. I had a similar application for the Bridge supports on my water feature area . So managed to print some stone and apply it to the 1 by 4s that were the bridge supports before today. 

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The scene is coming together now. These two photis step back and give the overall effect

 

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Very nice and the print is very convincing good job 

Mike, the painting is looking very good!

Lee, I do not have a steady hand anymore, and even by bracing it on something it seems paint goes everywhere.  Your car looks better now than when you started.

LISteamer, the scene is really coming together!  The printed piers are great!

Paul, Your buildings are looking great!  As long as it doesn't snow a bunch next Saturday, I plan to see them first hand!!

Well what I found on the '87 crane is that the magnet works and both motors wonk but they don't turn anything.  I see the coupling between the plastic motor housings and the gears must be little square end shafts, and they both are missing.  I took all the cardboard filler out of the box, but don't see them there.

In this photograph, I have removed one of the motor housings from the base.  I had a dickens of a time getting light to shine where I wanted it, but the two circles with the line between them shows where the square shaft should go from the easy to see hole on the motor housing and the hard to see gear.  The single circle shows where the other motor housing is still mounted on the base and it is missing the shaft also.

If anyone sees where my observations are wrong, let me know.  I never saw one of these before.

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WOW John, your quite the baby or should I say people making machine! Your going to be busy till summer now!

Lee D, Your doing a great job on the wood reefer! The addition of your parts from Scale City really make the car come to life! But then again you always do a wonderful job on all the cars you do!

LIRR, Your plaster work is coming right along! I like how everything is making your scene come to life!

Paul 2, Thanks for the information! Your buildings are looking great! Don't worry about going back to the drawing board, its better then taking track back up again! I know, just don't ask how! LOL

Hi Lew, The 182 does not have any adjustment, looks like the 282 has a big improvement. But it makes me think I can make my own shims!

Mark, Thank you sir! I am sorry your missing some parts for your crane. If you cant find them give me the measurements and I can try and build you a couple!

Well after the HOA meeting I went back to my fixed pilot project! Things were going well then I busted the air hoses on one end. So one end only has 1 set of hoses. The rest is coming together, I got the shell mounted, the Kadee coupler mounts installed. All that is left is to make up the couplers and mount them, then put it back on the track. I have included a couple photos. I don't think it will happen tomorrow as I need to work on the house a little!IMG_20200208_143600129IMG_20200208_143617398IMG_20200208_143608527

Everyone have a great night and I will check back in before bed!

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I need to read this thread more often.  Too many good projects on hand to count or comment on.

Here is my entry for today.  Finally got around to repairing the windows on the Bachmann G Scale Coach that I purchased off of feeBay for my Christmas layout.  It arrived with the windows cracked as such and one of the wheels by itself in the box.  The coach was poorly packaged to be insulated from damage so the USPS was innocent here.

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So today, I decided it was time to glue the window pieces back together (the wheel set was put back on, and I ran the coach on the Christmas layout)  so that I now can place it in storage.

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lee drennen posted:
Mark Boyce posted:

Lee, I understand it is hard to describe.  My hands, especially the thumbs hurt with arthritis too.  I had some trouble just today taking the gantry crane apart to see what is going on.  

You need to keep that crane and I know the feeling my fingers are getting more crooked every day. 

That is probably all that is wrong with it, other than it wasn't built like Mike's postwar version.    I was trying to think, but nothing happened.  I don't remember when or where I got it.  Also, it is missing on my inventory spreadsheet, so I don't even know what I paid for it.  Definitely an oversight on my part.  I thought I had everything on that sheet.  I'll get it going sometime, and it should be a good item if we ever have grandchildren.  

Mike, bummer the air hoses broke.  You will get it going well though.  Thank you for the offer on those little parts.  I'll see what I can do first. 

Kevin, it is a shame how poorly some folks pack stuff they ship!  The car looks great though as you got it fixed!!

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John Rowlen posted:

I am painting leftover figures from my pervious passenger car detailing.  I have seven partial boxes of 36 left to go.  (Not pictured in addition to what is pictured.) 

Then I start the twelve new/unopened boxes of 36 Preiser 65602 Seated figures.  I came up for air and to walk around after sitting at the kitchen table for two hours.

Six Canadian Pacific 21" passenger cars are supposedly on their way to me.

Have a good weekend.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

I post to verify my existence.  

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Great job on the people painting John.

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First pair of block signals hooked up and working today with Azatrax relay. Their purpose to protect westbound train on westbound track while eastbound train enter westbound track. Same when westbound train enter eastbound track. 3 pairs to go! It was fun and easy project.
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They look great!  Fun and easy are my favorite words!!  

Kevin, Nice to see an easy fix! Job well done, It should look great on the Christmas layout next year!

Patrick, Nice Job! Looks clean and very nice! I really like the stuff John form Azatrax puts out! Top notch equipment. I see from the pictures you have the sensors under the table shooting up. Was wondering how they are working for you! I had to put mine on my old layout at an angle.

Well its Sunday, no football, no racing yet, so I guess I will work on the house long enough to make the CEO happy than  hope to get to the train room and put my Kadee couplers on my dummy engine so I can call it done! LOL

I hope everyone has a great day and finds time for there layout and trains!

Nothing on the layout but I bought some supplies yesterday. A local arts and crafts store is closing so the prices were right. Really exciting stuff too, paint, Elmers glue, Testors glue for my building kit. I did find some small chain in their jewelry dept which I can use for securing loads on flatbed cars. I was looking for Testors dull-coat too but they didn't have it.

Hopefully I can get started on the building kit today.

Another busy Saturday on everyone's layouts.

Mark- can't tell from the picture but would some 1/4" square basswood dowel serve the purpose? Evergreen Models probably has what you need.
Mike- My fat fingers break small plastic parts all the time
Patrick- the signals are very nice.
Lee- It's all about the details. That car is going to look great.
Kevin- I hate when people don't pack things securely. My wife sells on "dabay" and everything she ships is packed like we're shipping the Mona Lisa.
Paul- the new area is coming together even if its in a re-design now.

Happy Sunday!

Bob

mike g. posted:

Bob, good luck on the building kit! Remember, take your time and have fun!

Scott the building platform turned out nice! Wonderful job on the building and the  wall art! Where did you find it?

Mike,

  I was looking at "Ghost Signs" of Baltimore, and saw one for Hunter Rye so just searched for the logo and printed it on decal paper. 

Thanks- Scott 

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I've gotten the base completed for the last section of the city and  started figuring out the building locations. Nearing the end of an Altoona model build and printed a nice decal for some wall advertising. Have fun.

Scott 

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Scott:

Your city scene is shaping up to be GREAT. I love urban scenes. Is the brick building in the second photo a kit? if so, what is it and where did you get it?

Thank you.

 

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B&O Fan posted:

I've gotten the base completed for the last section of the city and  started figuring out the building locations. Nearing the end of an Altoona model build and printed a nice decal for some wall advertising. Have fun.

Scott 

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Scott:

Your city scene is shaping up to be GREAT. I love urban scenes. Is the brick building in the second photo a kit? if so, what is it and where did you get it?

Thank you.

 

Randy,

It's the ABC Brewery office kit from Altoona models. 

Thanks for the comments. 

Scott 

 

    Mike, your engine looks great !

    Scott, really like your city scene !

    Lee, reefer car is looking really good !

   

                 shortly after taking delivery of a NH full dome car,

                           which will become part of my  Anheuser- Busch dinner train...

 

    I started removing all the New Haven lettering from the car...

               next a red & white stripe will replace the orange stripe that is on the car...

       that will match the stripes on the engine....

                  an Anheuser Busch's Adolphus business car will also be part of this train...

 

 

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Johan, what kind of car is that? I have never seen one before! Sure is sharp looking along with your great scenery!

Scott, Thanks for the information. I to would also like to have the brewery, but then again I also want to stay married! LOL

Brian, Looking good and sounds like you have a great plan! Good thing you have that New Haven switcher to help you out!~

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Johan, what kind of car is that? I have never seen one before! Sure is sharp looking along with your great scenery!

Scott, Thanks for the information. I to would also like to have the brewery, but then again I also want to stay married! LOL

Brian, Looking good and sounds like you have a great plan! Good thing you have that New Haven switcher to help you out!~

Mike. Thank you. That is a B&M Doodlebug rail car. 20200208_145920

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Steve, Sure beats a flashlight! LOL Nice work!

Johan, thank you, Looks Great and now I know what a Doodlebug car is!

Lee D, You are doing a KILLER job on the reefer car! Just wondering how much of your rolling stock have Kadee's?

Well the CEO let me go out and play a little so I was able to get the Kadee's put on my dummy engine and put back in the fleet! Here are a couple photos! Who knows I might even get a little more done like clean the darn room! LOLIMG_20200209_125149488IMG_20200209_125258498

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Bob, I was thinking similar to you.  1/4" square basswood dowel is too large.  The caliper measures it as .130 inches, slightly larger than 1/8".  I could get 1/4" and sand it down.  I don't know how much torque it would be on basswood to wear it down and get sloppy.  Maybe it would have to be metal, but I don't know if it is too tight it could crack the plastic.  I can try something and see.

Scott, the town is going to look great!  I too, like the Altoona building with the round turret!

Johan, I agree, that is a great scene with the doodlebug and the cars on other tracks behind!!

Brian, that car will look nice with that paint scheme!

Steve, the LED lights under the layout are great!  You just can't have enough light when we get older.

Lee, the reefer is looking tremendous!

Mike, the engines look great!  Also, the room doesn't look bad.  Lew is right, you move the dust around and get natural weathering!

Ross, the control panel looks pretty snazzy.

Spent the day pointing brick......

Well not really but I did take a stab at white washing the mortar lines on the machine shop. I used white acrylic and mixed in some light brown to tone it down a little. If you look closely at most brick buildings, the mortar is as far from white as you could get. Even on new buildings. Not disappointed with the results at all. Once I paint the doors and trim I think it will be just fine. I'm going to do the window and door lintels to look like sandstone so I thought a beige mortar would match best.

I cleaned up the pieces first and washed all the parts too.

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I'm going to add a floor on the second floor, the model doesn't come with one. I want to do some lighting and interior details too. The footprint is only 6X6 so can't do too much.

I also settled on a couple of smaller size prints of the two buildings and cut them out and glued them to some thin cardboard. Once dry I'll cut them out and figure out where to place them later.

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           Bob, your building is looking great !!

          

"Brian, Looking good and sounds like you have a great plan! Good thing you have that New Haven switcher to help you out!~" 

      thanks Mike...   really like it...

 

     your BNSF engines look great together !

                  are you going to have an auto-rack siding...

                            to be able to use your ramp for unloading vehicles ?

 

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Lew, I didn't clean, but I did try to run trains. I founfdd out I have some wiring to trace and track to clean. Trains run, go threw switches and die! It has me scratching my head, so I am going to retrace all the wires for the sidings!

Ross, Nice control panel!

Mark, Thank you! If you would like I can cut you some thick Plexi Glass to close to size and you could still sand it to fit!

Bob, Nice Job on the white/Tan wash! Plus the printed buildings are going to look great on your layout! Your right there fallowing in Paul 2 feet!

MikeG. Thanks this has been really fun Brian the Silver Mustang sent that Reefer to me as a gift out of nowhere. I like that ramp and you trains look very good. About half of my rolling stock is Kadees. I’ll get some pics of my Rolling stock with Kadees. 

Lew. Thanks I appreciate your complement 

Bob. I just watched a video today on YouTube of Mr. muffins white washing and mortaring brick buildings you’re doing a fantastic job

Johan great pics as always 

Mark. thanks for the complement 

Brian. Nice switcher 

Ross. I second that nice panel very impressive 

Mark Boyce posted:

Bob, I was thinking similar to you.  1/4" square basswood dowel is too large.  The caliper measures it as .130 inches, slightly larger than 1/8".  I could get 1/4" and sand it down.  I don't know how much torque it would be on basswood to wear it down and get sloppy.  Maybe it would have to be metal, but I don't know if it is too tight it could crack the plastic.  I can try something and see.

Scott, the town is going to look great!  I too, like the Altoona building with the round turret!

Johan, I agree, that is a great scene with the doodlebug and the cars on other tracks behind!!

Brian, that car will look nice with that paint scheme!

Steve, the LED lights under the layout are great!  You just can't have enough light when we get older.

Lee, the reefer is looking tremendous!

Mike, the engines look great!  Also, the room doesn't look bad.  Lew is right, you move the dust around and get natural weathering!

Ross, the control panel looks pretty snazzy.

Mark. Thank you. 🤝

Johan

lee drennen posted:

MikeG. Thanks this has been really fun Brian the Silver Mustang sent that Reefer to me as a gift out of nowhere. I like that ramp and you trains look very good. About half of my rolling stock is Kadees. I’ll get some pics of my Rolling stock with Kadees. 

Lew. Thanks I appreciate your complement 

Bob. I just watched a video today on YouTube of Mr. muffins white washing and mortaring brick buildings you’re doing a fantastic job

Johan great pics as always 

Mark. thanks for the complement 

Brian. Nice switcher 

Ross. I second that nice panel very impressive 

Lee. Thanks. 🤝

Johan

Brian, thank you sir! As for the Auto-rack siding I am still working on it. I have 2 auto-rack cars that's why OI built the ramp. I even built one for Cabinet Bob! It even made the back of the last Menards train catalog!

Lee D, Amazing work! Looking wonderful. One has to ask what's next when your done with the reefer car?

I hope everyone has a wonderful Monday and finds time for your layout and trains!

EricaAnn posted:

It's not so much what I did for my layout today, but what I did for someone else's layout. Working on 3 locomotives for a client. The two A units were originally Lionel 2032 Erie Alco's, circa 1952-1954. The B unit is from Lionel's MPF days. The two A units were "artistly" repainted by someone using a brush trying to stay away from the decals. Same with the truck side rails. Guess they wanted to update the color scheme. 

I was able to strip away the brush applied paint job as well as Lionel's original decals, black paint & yellow side strips. These shells have now had time turned back about 67 years and all of lead based paint is gone! 

After stripping a number of older Lionel cars my stripping solutions has enough lead in suspension to probably offer some limited radiation protection. 

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A couple weeks ago I shared a few photos of the stripped ALCO shells I was working on. Well, I thought I'd share a photo or two of the completed locomotives before I deliver them to my client. The "old girls" got quite a facelift!

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As a result of wanting to display one of my recent finds I did some work on the PER's scenic backdrop.

I put together three pics from a mid-'50s Shawmut excursion:

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The left photo is of a pair of Shawmut SW9s with B&O Fs idling in the background. This would have been at Brockway where the Shawmut and the B&O interchanged and was surely the end of the Northbound leg of the trip.

Dad took the top photo in the morning on the B&O high bridge over the Allegheny River and the Shawmut RR.

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The bottom photo was in the afternoon with the excursion train Southbound now passing under the B&O high bridge.

I also changed things a bit on the West wall, trying for perspective-filled shots to go with the D&RGW up-the-mountain pic:

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I feel like I done good work.  :

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Over the weekend I weathered my fleet of ore cars and my 0-6-0 tank engine. 20190511_14282120190511_14284720190511_142631

First I attacked the bodies with acetone to dull the finish and lighten the lettering.  The next step was a coatiing of Dullcoat.  Then I  brushed brown oxide powder all over, followed by a second dullcoat spray.  Finally the B&LE  cars got a wash of gray. 

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 On the tank engine, I first removed the US  STEEL logo with 91% ISOPROPYL Alcohol followed by an initial coating of dullcoat. US steel switcher

The next steps included brush painting the loco with acrylic paints, grimy black, dirt,  oily black,  and white.  It also got some brown oxide powder on it. 20200208_16030720200208_16035520200208_160246

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Erica Ann, Those Alcos look great!!

Lew, your collage of prints looks great!  You cover quite a bit of territory all the way from the Allegheny River to D&RGW country!

Bill, the weathering looks superb!  Yes the B&LE cars that traveled through Butler County looked that way.

JLM1973, If it keeps him enjoying the layout, then by all means!  I think it looks great!

third rail posted:

Over the weekend I weathered my fleet of ore cars and my 0-6-0 tank engine. 20190511_14282120190511_14284720190511_142631

First I attacked the bodies with acetone to dull the finish and lighten the lettering.  The next step was a coatiing of Dullcoat.  Then I  brushed brown oxide powder all over, followed by a second dullcoat spray.  Finally the B&LE  cars got a wash of gray. 

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 On the tank engine, I first removed the US  STEEL logo with 91% ISOPROPYL Alcohol followed by an initial coating of dullcoat. US steel switcher

The next steps included brush painting the loco with acrylic paints, grimy black, dirt,  oily black,  and white.  It also got some brown oxide powder on it. 20200208_16030720200208_16035520200208_160246

Hope you like them.

Great work on the tank engine!

Mark,  I know I ran into this year's ago...  I would shop for some "Shaft Key Stock"....  It tends to be available at a good old style full service hardware store.   It's square steel stock made for keyways in drive shafts and mating hubs to prevent slipping....  

It's still or at least was fairly common hardware, find it on lawnmowers, snowblowers etc.....  If my memory serves me right it comes in common US standard fractional dimensions  3/16 sq.  1/4 sq etc.....

I think I re-installed mine with some acrylic latex caulk like DAP230 to keep it from falling out again. 

Sorry I am many days behind getting on the forum, went skiing with my daughter Saturday in NH>....   

 

mike g. posted:

Brian, thank you sir! As for the Auto-rack siding I am still working on it. I have 2 auto-rack cars that's why OI built the ramp. I even built one for Cabinet Bob! It even made the back of the last Menards train catalog!

Lee D, Amazing work! Looking wonderful. One has to ask what's next when your done with the reefer car?

I hope everyone has a wonderful Monday and finds time for your layout and trains!

Mike I have a few ideas 

Mark Boyce posted:

Erica Ann, Those Alcos look great!!

Lew, your collage of prints looks great!  You cover quite a bit of territory all the way from the Allegheny River to D&RGW country!

Bill, the weathering looks superb!  Yes the B&LE cars that traveled through Butler County looked that way.

JLM1973, If it keeps him enjoying the layout, then by all means!  I think it looks great!

I second that everything Mark said great work everyone 

EricaAnn posted:
EricaAnn posted:

It's not so much what I did for my layout today, but what I did for someone else's layout. Working on 3 locomotives for a client. The two A units were originally Lionel 2032 Erie Alco's, circa 1952-1954. The B unit is from Lionel's MPF days. The two A units were "artistly" repainted by someone using a brush trying to stay away from the decals. Same with the truck side rails. Guess they wanted to update the color scheme. 

I was able to strip away the brush applied paint job as well as Lionel's original decals, black paint & yellow side strips. These shells have now had time turned back about 67 years and all of lead based paint is gone! 

After stripping a number of older Lionel cars my stripping solutions has enough lead in suspension to probably offer some limited radiation protection. 

IMG_0413IMG_0419

A couple weeks ago I shared a few photos of the stripped ALCO shells I was working on. Well, I thought I'd share a photo or two of the completed locomotives before I deliver them to my client. The "old girls" got quite a facelift!

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Very nice always enjoyed your work on these you have some great ideas 

chris a posted:

Mark,  I know I ran into this year's ago...  I would shop for some "Shaft Key Stock"....  It tends to be available at a good old style full service hardware store.   It's square steel stock made for keyways in drive shafts and mating hubs to prevent slipping....  

It's still or at least was fairly common hardware, find it on lawnmowers, snowblowers etc.....  If my memory serves me right it comes in common US standard fractional dimensions  3/16 sq.  1/4 sq etc.....

I think I re-installed mine with some acrylic latex caulk like DAP230 to keep it from falling out again. 

Sorry I am many days behind getting on the forum, went skiing with my daughter Saturday in NH>....   

 

Chris, Thank you for the good idea!!  Don't worry, it is so easy to get behind on this topic of 888 pages and counting!

Been a busy little beaver today...

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Haven't done much on my layout of late. 

The layout at the JRM museum, on the other hand, is a much different story...

Here's the layout back in 2018: 

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And the layout today: 

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Just a wee bit of difference.  ;-) 

Mitch 

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Looks good, Mitch... looks like you’ve hot a lot going on in a relatively small space. Did you give up on your idea to have that center track include a reversing wye???

Yeah, we're gonna have a different mountain built, instead, so I decided to go with 042 and 027 ovals.  Between replacing the Fastrack with tubular, and putting a layer of Homasote scrounged from a scrapped HO scale layout on the table,  the trains are a LOT quieter...   

Mitch 

What did I do on my layout?? I took a pic of this enlargement which is part of the scenic backdrop of the Plywood Empire Route:

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Why did I put up this and similar enlargements on the train-room walls?? Because that is me on the left. My experiences depicted in these old photos inform my life and are one of the roots of my interest in model railroading. Why did I then post this pic on this Forum?? Because that is what I did on my model railroad today and that is the topic of this thread and this Forum is for sharing OT thoughts, experiences and yes, pics.

At least that is my understanding of the TOS.

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Erica Ann, Wonderful work on the Alco shells!

Lew, those are some fantastic photos! Thanks for sharing with the rest of us~!

Third Rail, Great job on the weathering, thanks for the step by step information!

JLM, Your son has an eye for taste! Let him flow with it, it will help keep him interested!

Johan, You never let up! Once again what a great looking scene!

Mitch, Outstanding work, what an improvement and I bet the kids really love it!

As for me, nothing, noda, zip, zilch. I guess you all get the point, been working on the house! LOL

geysergazer posted:

What did I do on my layout?? I took a pic of this enlargement which is part of the scenic backdrop of the Plywood Empire Route:

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Why did I put up this and similar enlargements on the train-room walls?? Because that is me on the left. My experiences depicted in these old photos inform my life and are one of the roots of my interest in model railroading. Why did I then post this pic on this Forum?? Because that is what I did on my model railroad today and that is the topic of this thread and this Forum is for sharing OT thoughts, experiences and yes, pics.

At least that is my understanding of the TOS.

Lew, Check your email from me.  That is familiar country and ROW to me too!

Johan, those are great pics. You have a good eye for capturing a scene.

Mike g, good to see you got a chance to run trains. Hope you find the problem with the power to the track.

Erica ann, very nice paint job on the diesels.

 And to everybody else you have made for good reading today on all the projects going on. 

Took a trip to Menards to get some spray paint for the different silos along with some basswood strips from the hobby section to make some loading docks for the new flats. Also picked up two 3 inch clamps that had a great rebate on them. 4.99 each with a 4.00 dollar rebate on each one. The rebate was a limit of two. Today I applied two more washes to the machine shop. Then I started piecing in the flats to see how they will work together. Did some changing out of the flats I already had in place. I decided to cut off the bottom on one of the last flats I got. I think I am pretty close to this being the final positioning. Pics..........Paul 2

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So much to see on this thread in the last three days.

I am still painting Preiser 65602 Seated People for the next passenger cars I will detail.  I have started 38 combined figures that yield 76 people for the train.  The figures were set aside because of the painting challenges they present.  If I stray with my paint cut lines on one figure, I am marking the figure next to it.  I also have changed the way I install these figures, making them more realistic.  I do more grinding of legs that keep them vertical, rather than reclining.

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Mark Boyce posted:

Mike, the painting is looking very good!

Lee, I do not have a steady hand anymore, and even by bracing it on something it seems paint goes everywhere.  Your car looks better now than when you started.

LISteamer, the scene is really coming together!  The printed piers are great!

Paul, Your buildings are looking great!  As long as it doesn't snow a bunch next Saturday, I plan to see them first hand!!

Well what I found on the '87 crane is that the magnet works and both motors wonk but they don't turn anything.  I see the coupling between the plastic motor housings and the gears must be little square end shafts, and they both are missing.  I took all the cardboard filler out of the box, but don't see them there.

In this photograph, I have removed one of the motor housings from the base.  I had a dickens of a time getting light to shine where I wanted it, but the two circles with the line between them shows where the square shaft should go from the easy to see hole on the motor housing and the hard to see gear.  The single circle shows where the other motor housing is still mounted on the base and it is missing the shaft also.

If anyone sees where my observations are wrong, let me know.  I never saw one of these before.

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Hardware store keystock,  square wood dowel (craft isle at Wally world, etc) or square ended chopstick?  (a bit easier than finding plastistrut here)

Hold it place for assembly with a tiny dab of silicon/caulk (if it's tricky.)

I wanted to chop off my left arm last month, then my right one soon after. Each lasted about 2 weeks;  Mid fingers to elbow... I couldn't lift a coffee cup with the left one.     Arthritis or CT  most likely....It ain't fun; that's for sure.

mike g. posted:

Erica Ann, Wonderful work on the Alco shells!

Lew, those are some fantastic photos! Thanks for sharing with the rest of us~!

Third Rail, Great job on the weathering, thanks for the step by step information!

JLM, Your son has an eye for taste! Let him flow with it, it will help keep him interested!

Johan, You never let up! Once again what a great looking scene!

Mitch, Outstanding work, what an improvement and I bet the kids really love it!

As for me, nothing, noda, zip, zilch. I guess you all get the point, been working on the house! LOL

Mike. You're welcome. I just try do it my best.🤝

Johan

 

paul 2 posted:

Johan, those are great pics. You have a good eye for capturing a scene.

Mike g, good to see you got a chance to run trains. Hope you find the problem with the power to the track.

Erica ann, very nice paint job on the diesels.

 And to everybody else you have made for good reading today on all the projects going on. 

Took a trip to Menards to get some spray paint for the different silos along with some basswood strips from the hobby section to make some loading docks for the new flats. Also picked up two 3 inch clamps that had a great rebate on them. 4.99 each with a 4.00 dollar rebate on each one. The rebate was a limit of two. Today I applied two more washes to the machine shop. Then I started piecing in the flats to see how they will work together. Did some changing out of the flats I already had in place. I decided to cut off the bottom on one of the last flats I got. I think I am pretty close to this being the final positioning. Pics..........Paul 2

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Paul. Thank you. I waiting our new backdrops, hope they are soon ready.🤝

Johan

Adriatic posted:
Mark Boyce posted:

Mike, the painting is looking very good!

Lee, I do not have a steady hand anymore, and even by bracing it on something it seems paint goes everywhere.  Your car looks better now than when you started.

LISteamer, the scene is really coming together!  The printed piers are great!

Paul, Your buildings are looking great!  As long as it doesn't snow a bunch next Saturday, I plan to see them first hand!!

Well what I found on the '87 crane is that the magnet works and both motors wonk but they don't turn anything.  I see the coupling between the plastic motor housings and the gears must be little square end shafts, and they both are missing.  I took all the cardboard filler out of the box, but don't see them there.

In this photograph, I have removed one of the motor housings from the base.  I had a dickens of a time getting light to shine where I wanted it, but the two circles with the line between them shows where the square shaft should go from the easy to see hole on the motor housing and the hard to see gear.  The single circle shows where the other motor housing is still mounted on the base and it is missing the shaft also.

If anyone sees where my observations are wrong, let me know.  I never saw one of these before.

Hardware store keystock,  square wood dowel (craft isle at Wally world, etc) or square ended chopstick?  (a bit easier than finding plastistruct here)

Hold it place for assembly with a tiny dab of silicon/caulk (if it's tricky.)

I wanted to chop off my left arm last month, then my right one soon after. Each lasted about 2 weeks;  Mid fingers to elbow... I couldn't lift a coffee cup with the left one.     Arthritis or CT  most likely....It ain't fun; that's for sure.

Butch, Thank you for the ideas.  Someone else suggested he has the ability to cut plexiglass to size as well.  On the one hand, it is a back burner project.  On the other hand, it is a project I would like to put back together once and know it's working.  Right now it is sitting there in pieces.  

I'm sorry you have had so much pain with arthritis or even carpal tunnel.  I had CT surgery in each hand twice.  Scar tissue caused the second go round.  It was much worse. 

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Lee, I was looking for something else and found another AmeriTown kit I forgot I had.  It says it is a Realtor office, but I think it looks like a small company store in coal country. I’m going to build it next trying a thinner, more tan mortar, and see how it goes before I do the Atlas switch tomorrow.

Mark- when I did my building over the weekend I mixed the paint to a very thin milkshake consistency. Seemed to work well.

Bob

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I inherited my grandfather's 226e with correct 12 wheel tender around Christmas of 2018. Had it serviced and got bit by the bug. Several locomotives later...it was time to get off of the floor.

This is my first layout.  I have a 3.5 year and 9 month old so time is tight. Just bought a lionchief set (santa fe superchief) so my older son can run it with the remote and sounds, he loves it. 

My main goal was to have a place to run 2 trains simultaneously and this was the space I had, 4' x 10'.  I just wired my 2 remote switches in the back today. My outside loop is missing a 1.75" piece which will put it flush along the front edge, had to steal that piece while installing the switches for the inner figure 8. 

I am already planning an elevated level so I can run 3 trains or possibly a smaller elevated bumper track for a gang car, but that won't be for a while.

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Johan, the cars and backdrop look great!

Brian, NS&EW, That is the perfect name for your railroad!!

Kevin, the station area looks great!

Gerhardt, You are doing a great job fitting in a lot of layout in 10x12!!

Rick, the layout looks great so far.  You are doing a good job, and I hope your little ones will enjoy trains with you.  I see a Go Steelers sign on the wall.  Do you live in the Pittsburgh area?  Also, check your wanted to buy post, I replied there also.  

 

While waiting to get some better colored paint for the AmeriTowne window sills, I dug out all the parts for this River Leaf Models building I started a long time ago.  I'm thinking I put it all on the shelf back in 2014-15 when I had carpal tunnel issues and surgery for the second time and never got it back out.  I trimmed, sanded and attached all the windows and doors today.  Yes, I see I need to do something with the interior on this one.  Who knows what I was thinking 5 years ago.  

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After three days of painting 38 Preiser double figures, they are ready for final inspection and correction.  These double figures take more time than the usual single figures.  I have painted approximately 165 Preiser 65602 24-Seated People packs.  This double figure was used, but not as often as the adults with babies, old woman with a cane, and others.

I am panting the few leftover figures from when I would open a new package to get a specific figure from a 24-pack for a passenger car I detailed.  I created 10 variations of these figures in order to have variety in a seven-car passenger train.  Preiser only offers two variations in their factory painted packs.

I also save significant cost by painting the figures myself.

Sincerely, John Rowlen 

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Mark Boyce posted:

Johan, the cars and backdrop look great!

Brian, NS&EW, That is the perfect name for your railroad!!

Kevin, the station area looks great!

Gerhardt, You are doing a great job fitting in a lot of layout in 10x12!!

Rick, the layout looks great so far.  You are doing a good job, and I hope your little ones will enjoy trains with you.  I see a Go Steelers sign on the wall.  Do you live in the Pittsburgh area?  Also, check your wanted to buy post, I replied there also.  

 

While waiting to get some better colored paint for the AmeriTowne window sills, I dug out all the parts for this River Leaf Models building I started a long time ago.  I'm thinking I put it all on the shelf back in 2014-15 when I had carpal tunnel issues and surgery for the second time and never got it back out.  I trimmed, sanded and attached all the windows and doors today.  Yes, I see I need to do something with the interior on this one.  Who knows what I was thinking 5 years ago.  

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Mark. Thank you. The building looking really nice.🤝

Johan

John Rowlen posted:

After three days of painting 38 Preiser double figures, they are ready for final inspection and correction.  These double figures take more time than the usual single figures.  I have painted approximately 165 Preiser 65602 24-Seated People packs.  This double figure was used, but not as often as the adults with babies, old woman with a cane, and others.

I am panting the few leftover figures from when I would open a new package to get a specific figure from a 24-pack for a passenger car I detailed.  I created 10 variations of these figures in order to have variety in a seven-car passenger train.  Preiser only offers two variations in their factory painted packs.

I also save significant cost by painting the figures myself.

Sincerely, John Rowlen 

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John one word Amazing 

mike g. posted:

Great work everyone, I handed out a lot of likes and wish I had time to comment but its dinner time then bed. I will be nursing a bad back so I can get back to work on the house! I hope everyone had a great day and an even better tomorrow!

Take care of your self MikeG we all know you like our works and  you don’t have to comment all the time it gets a little bit overwhelming sometimes to do that 

Johan, Thank you about the building!

Lew, You are absolutely correct.  I am going to leave the roof unattached and not add a base so I can ponder an interior, which I never did in HO and especially N scale.  Myles (Trainman2001) offers tremendous information about building interiors in his 'Continuing Saga...' topic.  I think I will finish the exterior, so I don't lose the parts  then set it aside while I think about interior treatments, methods, and materials.

John, I also am always so impressed and encouraged about all your painted passengers!  I had a different thought than Mitch.  The photo looked like a formal photograph at a sock hop from the days not long before I was in high school.  Boys wore a jacket and ties, the girls wore bobby socks.  (In my day, the fellows didn't need a tie and the girls were allowed to wear slacks instead of dresses that were required for classes.  Both boys and girls could wear jeans as long as there were no rivets on the pockets that would scratch the bleachers.)  Fantastic!

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geysergazer posted:

Mark: projects, projects! This building really is begging for an interior....both floors. 

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Nice looking what kind was you thinking 

Thank you Lee!  Yes, suggestions are always welcome!  The kit is marketed as a drug store and has an RX sign is suggested to hang off the second floor corner, but I wouldn't have to use it on this kit.

Morning guys Its Hump day!

Mark, Looks like a good start on the River Leaf building. You could always put an apartment on the second floor for the owners to live in and on the main floor a train store or hobby shop!

Lee D,  Outstanding work on the Reefer car! It really looks great! I will look around to see if there is something I can send your way so you don't run out of projects! LOL Thanks for your earlier comments, I got some rest over night and will see how long the back last today!

John, Amazing job on all your couples! One thing though, I don't see any gray haired couples, and from what I see in pictures a lot of couples that ride trains are gray! LOL

I hope everyone has a great day and finds time to have fun with there layout and trains!

Mark Boyce posted:

Johan, the cars and backdrop look great!

Brian, NS&EW, That is the perfect name for your railroad!!

Kevin, the station area looks great!

Gerhardt, You are doing a great job fitting in a lot of layout in 10x12!!

Rick, the layout looks great so far.  You are doing a good job, and I hope your little ones will enjoy trains with you.  I see a Go Steelers sign on the wall.  Do you live in the Pittsburgh area?  Also, check your wanted to buy post, I replied there also.  

 

While waiting to get some better colored paint for the AmeriTowne window sills, I dug out all the parts for this River Leaf Models building I started a long time ago.  I'm thinking I put it all on the shelf back in 2014-15 when I had carpal tunnel issues and surgery for the second time and never got it back out.  I trimmed, sanded and attached all the windows and doors today.  Yes, I see I need to do something with the interior on this one.  Who knows what I was thinking 5 years ago.  

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Mark, your structure is coming along very well. I wanted to do a drug store and had some Ameritowne fronts so made a double building which had the drug store, music school, a locksmith and next door is the Royal Plaza Hotel. I thought awnings would really dress things up so made them from file folders. 

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I've been working on a factory for my layout.  It's going to be fairly large, but not the largest one planned. Approximate 31X15X18 high.  All made from 1 sheet of 1/2 inch MDF and 1/8 inch tempered hardboard. The MDF was ripped on my table saw to 1/2 inch square pieces then cut to length. They were all marked for their position a day then 1/2 inch dadoes were cut to form half laps for each piece.20191104_09225520191106_095349 all the pieces were glued and assembled and attached to a 1/4 inch hardboard base. The interior was give a rattle can coating of red oxide paint. Then the 1/8 inch hardboard sheets went on to give the building some strength.20191106_09551120200208_16105120200208_161130

The work isn't finished.  I still need to cut the sides to roof height and build windows. Lastly will come the roof. I also will be adding a  skin of corrugated metal on top of the hardboard. Adjacent to it will be my electric arc furnace building.  That one will be 48x24X22 high, possibly with an open front so I can detail the interior.

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Ray,

Your buildings look great!  Yes, the buildings with offices in the upstairs is a possibility too.  It reminds me of Philip Marlow's upstairs office.  Years ago, our insurance man had an upstairs office like that.  The awning looks good, and awnings are definitely a good detail to add.

Bill, That factory is huge, and the planned one with it will definitely dwarf the trains, but suggest a big reason for rail service!

Mark, I'd be very tempted to do a butcher shop but of course Roomie's Granddad and later her Uncle had a butcher shop in Aspinwall.  Seriously though, that building is actually smaller than it looks and a butcher shop would fit in it without looking overcrowded. It could be pretty simple with a white meat case crossways about a third of the way back that would show up nicely through the front windows. A beef quarter hung behind the meat case to one side and a butcher-block to the other and you would have a believable scene. You could even get carried away and put up two walls in one back corner with a door and you'd have a walk-in cooler. Oh, and a ring of sausage hung. Can't forget that!

Heh. EDITED FOR CLARIFICATION. It's not that I get Mike and Mark mixed up as people but rather that my senior brain sometimes takes over the fingers on the keyboard.

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Mark Boyce posted:

I dug out all the parts for this River Leaf Models building I started a long time ago.  

Mark, thanks for the kind words. That building that you're working on is coming along very nicely, the brick facade looks great!  I live in Hershey. I grew up in Beaver County and my grand parent did crafts and wood working before they passed. The stuff on that back wall is things that they made which don't really fit in upstairs but I could never part with!

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Folks, is it really necessary to reply with quotes so frequently?  And without editing the quoted post?  I visit this thread almost daily and to see so many "reply with quote" posts that do not need such treatment makes the post a "spam-like" repetition.  And using "reply with quote" doesn't mean the quoted post can't be edited to remove photos or unneeded text; there's no need to include the entire post's non-germane content.

Post what you will, but please do so with a sense of courtesy to prospective readers.

 

 

P51 :  I really like what you are doing with the Trench engine.  FYI - I was watching an episode of "Antique Roadshow" last night from "Bonanzaville, Wis" wherever that is, but the point was that one of the items shown was an artistically painted WW1 helmet that had been decorated (according to the person who brought it to the show) on the boat home from Europe with a combat scene.  What is interesting to your effort is that the owner of the helmet was an Engineer (US Army) who worked on the trains that fed the front lines or the Tench RR's.  When I heard that I thought of your effort.  The fellow who brought the helmet was the grandchild of the engineer but he had some neat stories and a bit of paperwork confirming his grandfathers role in operating those RR's. 

Best Regards, Don

I'm with you Carl. I do like to support our fellow modelers but I've been hitting the "like" button more and commenting less lately. If I reply with quote I will try and edit the post as well.

If we can all agree that a click on the like button constitutes a thank you then we would be able to stay on topic more.

Alan commented again earlier and I think we would all hate to see this thread vanish.......

Did some little things today. I added a fourth wash to the brick and now it's ready for gluing together and the windows and doors are ready for painting. Mark you had made a mention about the Hotel Antlers on my one backdrop. I didn't realize it at the time but I had blocked it out with the new flat in front. Seeing it had two water towers I cut the one off to show the sign again. The flats are now ready to be set in place. I decided I am going to cut a piece out of the tall tan building between the loading door and the row of windows. Going to add a loading dock the length of the building and that would of block out the building flats behind it totally. Pics..........Paul 2

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Ray,

Your buildings look great!  Yes, the buildings with offices in the upstairs is a possibility too.  It reminds me of Philip Marlow's upstairs office.  Years ago, our insurance man had an upstairs office like that.  The awning looks good, and awnings are definitely a good detail to add.

Bill, That factory is huge, and the planned one with it will definitely dwarf the trains, but suggest a big reason for rail service!

thanks for the compliment. That building will be the annex for the electric arc furnace building.  I've started on its framework. 20200212_18480820200212_184749

Those are 5 MPC cars in front of it to give you a perspective of its size.  I would cut more hardboard walls for both buildings but my table saw is in the garage and it's only 32 degrees here in Chicago. 

I have to wait until the temp reaches at least 40 degrees to work somewhat comfortably there.

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Ray, great job on the drug store and the awnings!

Bill, WOW that is going to be a very impressive fac tory!

Mark, I am sure whatever you decide for your store front I am sure its going to look wonderful!

Lee, everyone needs to take time and run trains every now and then or it just seams like a lot of work!

Steve, The brown carpet is a nice touch!

Lew, I just love how you pull these ideas out of thin air! LOL

Paul 2, Things sure are looking great, Seams like your reaching the end of the line on the wear house row!

I sure hope everyone had a great day and are able to make tomorrow even  better!

I put a coat of paint on the lintels and sills last night. It's going to need a second coat. I also need to find a slightly smaller brush than the one I used. Hard to control the goofs.....

Windows will be white and I haven't decided what color to do the doors yet.

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I also cut out the buildings for the wall in the background. Working on another image to put behind these.

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mike g. posted:

 

Lew, I just love how you pull these ideas out of thin air! LOL

I sure hope everyone had a great day and are able to make tomorrow even  better!

Mike, sorry for the slip.  It's not that I mix people up but rather that my sometimes-senior brain takes over my fingers on the keyboard.

I went back and re-read your Post wrt how you added traverse movement to your 282 Crane. Is that the system you will use? When I thought about using similar I couldn't figure out how to make room for the long slot through the deck.

I am still painting the left over figures from the 165 boxes of Preiser 65602 Seated figures I painted in the last six years.  The 38 couples are done.

Last night I finished the 14 "Woman with a purse".  The other 151 "Woman with a purse" are in my 21" passenger cars already.  When I started painting figures six years ago, I could do no more than 12 Seated People a night.  That rate of production still holds true today.  The figures below have five colors of dresses, two colors of purses and shoes, and two colors of hair.  (No grey Mike, Sorry.)

I have tried a variety of skin tones, but the paint from three different dealers quickly dried, forming a skin layer (No pun intended) on top of the newly opened bottle.  The colors were overly glossy for a flat paint, and the figures did not look realistic.  I used up the remaining "Dark Skin Tone Flat Acryl" paint for leather jackets on the "Man with a Baby & Bottle".  The paint quickly dried and was unusable.  When painting, the newly applied paint would skin-up. off the figure. if I re-painted a wet area.

I am ready to start painting my remaining new, unopened packs of 24 Seated People, Preiser 65602.  I will take pictures of the steps I use and post them as the figures develope.

The six Canadian Pacific 21" passenger cars are supposed to arrive today.  It snowed last night, turning my yard into a winter wonderland.  I need to put out peanuts for the squirrels.  Thanks for reminding me.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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I am ready to start painting my remaining new, unopened packs of 24 Seated People, Preiser 65602.  I will take pictures of the steps I use and post them as the figures develope.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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I am sure I am not alone in looking forward to reading and seeing photos of your process, John.

I got a little more done on the River Leaf building.  I added the window and door sills and lintels.  Also the trim at the top of the brick walls.  I decided to make all of that painted fairly dark and representing wooden pars and not sandstone.  I think I will set it aside and do the interior and finish the removable roof when I am ready.

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Well, it was a weekend in the last month. But I just got back on the forum and wanted to post my progress.  So here it is:  24' X 2 ft down the long back wall and 2 4'X4' corners on the ends. 2 loops started out of 3, O-72 and O-80, #3 will be O-84 or O-88.  The other long side will be 24 X 6 or 8, depending on the space left inside. It will host a mountain for several desired settings. Track will spiral up the mountain to a sawmill on top.  Inner Track is live power with DCS for about 8 feet. Lots of ScaleTrax and some buildings are on the top.  The next add on this end is a Tilt-Up set of bridges for entry to inside the layout.  Why so Big?  I have the new MTH Scale Big Boy 4014 to run on it.

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Help me out Here!

So I have this corner on the layout that I am looking for ideas for development . Although I have a lot of scale equipment and structures, I still have the calling for some plasticVille and I   thought about putting a Plasticville farm setup on slightly elevated terrain above the track. Thought about putting a scene break just to the right of the corner in the form of a Highway grade crossing on the upper level that could continue over the lower level as an elevated highway crossing. 

So I am asking for your thoughts here on what to do with this corner. We all have dealt with corners before nd maybe you have done the perfect solution for my real estate here. Send some photos of what you may have done and maybe I can replicate it on this layout.

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The Canadian Pacific 1927610 4-pack arrived today, so I inspected the cars for flaws.  Three of the Canadian Pacific name stripes had to be coaxed to lay flat by using an Excel knife to raise the stripe as I moved the bump toward the car door end.

When I inspected the baggage car, one window was blocked so I opened the car.  I discovered that the letter sorting desk used in the shorter Santa Fe baggage car was also in this car, but the shorter floor piece placed the desk in front of the longer Canadian Pacific door window.

I removed the desk and shifted it to the opposite side of the door.  The interior was then painted and some extra freight I had was added to the car.  Since the doors do not open on this longer baggage car, the type of freight was not as important, and I used some pieces several times.  I placed tall workers in front of the windows to attract attention to the interior freight inside the baggage car.

I did not plan on detailing these cars now, since I am still painting Preiser Seated People for the entire set of passenger cars.  It turned out to be a nice break from painting people the last several days.

Have a good weekend.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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LIRR Steamer posted:

Help me out Here!

So I have this corner on the layout that I am looking for ideas for development . Although I have a lot of scale equipment and structures, I still have the calling for some plasticVille and I   thought about putting a Plasticville farm setup on slightly elevated terrain above the track. Thought about putting a scene break just to the right of the corner in the form of a Highway grade crossing on the upper level that could continue over the lower level as an elevated highway crossing. 

So I am asking for your thoughts here on what to do with this corner. We all have dealt with corners before nd maybe you have done the perfect solution for my real estate here. Send some photos of what you may have done and maybe I can replicate it on this layout.

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LIRR- I think the Plasticville will look good up in that corner. Since it's small in scale terms it will have the appearance of being off in the distance. The road and bridges would be a good break between the scenes and could partially block the view of the farm to hide the size difference a little more. A proper backdrop on the wall of a farm  will finish it perfectly.

Bob

LIRR Steamer posted:

Help me out Here!

So I have this corner on the layout that I am looking for ideas for development . Although I have a lot of scale equipment and structures, I still have the calling for some plasticVille and I   thought about putting a Plasticville farm setup on slightly elevated terrain above the track. Thought about putting a scene break just to the right of the corner in the form of a Highway grade crossing on the upper level that could continue over the lower level as an elevated highway crossing. 

So I am asking for your thoughts here on what to do with this corner. We all have dealt with corners before nd maybe you have done the perfect solution for my real estate here. Send some photos of what you may have done and maybe I can replicate it on this layout.

Here is the corner. 

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And here is the Plasticville Farm 

 

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LIRR, I know the problem in deciding what to do, had an impossible corner and I went up because of very little room to go out. I put the footprint size into the computer and started doing what ifs and came out with this design and am very pleased with the outcome. I don't know how to do a farm there but there may be a way, good luck.

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Morning guys, its been a few day and a lot had happened so here I go. Oh By the way I read Alan's psot so this is all train related!

Paul 2, Your buildings are coming along nicely! Great idea on the backdrops and the loading docks! I cant wait to see them in place!

Bob, your building is going to be a nice addition to your layout! I agree that the backdrops at the end of the siding need its own backdrop behind them, but things are turning out very nice!

Lew, I plan on using the same system, but have to make it smaller as it now will be right above my Z4000 and wiring from my control panel. That will be one of my next projects along with getting the retaining wall along the back wall so I can ballast and be done back there so I can set building where I think I want them! As for the slot I am not sure if I will do that again, I might just ad some weight to the control wire so it will retract when the crane moves back and forth!

Johan, the scene your Santa Fe MP15 is in is just outstanding! Great work!

John, wonderful job on the women! I am glad you mentioned the problem with the paint as it gives me something to watch out for in the future. Nice work on the Canadian  Pacific baggage car!

Mark, the building is looking really good! I am wondering what you are going to do for a floor as I see there is not one right now?

Patrick, Nice work on the signals! Are you getting your relays from Azatrac ?

Russel, Great description of what your doing and nice photos of what you have done sofar! I was wondering in your next post if you might be able to post your track plan?

Ray, WOW! That looks amazing! Start to finish what great work! Makes one want to get a 3D printer and learn Cad! But CAD is a rough thing for slow learners like myself! LOL

I hope everyone has a great Friday and a wonderful weekend! Oh and don't forget to find some time for your trains and layouts! If anything just go out and run your trains till your happy!

LIRR, I am with Bob that I like the farm concept for the same reasons.  It is slightly smaller than scale, so it can give a bit of an illusion of distance.

Ray, your treatment of that corner really turned out well.  You hid some of the back curves and made a imaginative industrial building that really is a focus for attention.

Mike, Yes, the River Leaf buildings are great on the exterior, but as you point out they don't include a floor or even foundation.  I am thinking of what business to put in the building.  I am thinking of taking an approach of Myles Trainman2001, of building the interior on the base with a foundation, even if it is just a picture of the inside of the store and the exterior one block high.  The same for the second floor.  The kit comes with nice venetian blinds and clear plastic windows that I am not going to install until I have painted the interior walls.  All suggestions are welcome.

Last evening, I put my town buildings back on the family room layout upper level mainly so we don't bump and break any of them when I get my sons-in-law to help me move lumber in the little train/workshop room.  I don't have a date set for them to help.  I'm letting our younger son-in-law transition from working for two employers to full time with the newer one.

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mike g. posted:

Morning guys, its been a few day and a lot had happened so here I go. Oh By the way I read Alan's psot so this is all train related!

 

Lew, I plan on using the same system, but have to make it smaller as it now will be right above my Z4000 and wiring from my control panel. That will be one of my next projects along with getting the retaining wall along the back wall so I can ballast and be done back there so I can set building where I think I want them! As for the slot I am not sure if I will do that again, I might just ad some weight to the control wire so it will retract when the crane moves back and forth!

 

I hope everyone has a great Friday and a wonderful weekend! Oh and don't forget to find some time for your trains and layouts! If anything just go out and run your trains till your happy!

Mike, I think I see what you mean. You could attach a cable to the nut that is moved by the screw and with a pulley or two get from under the benchwork to above the deck and then it would look a lot like what I ended up with.

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Mark, layout looks like it's coming along very nicely, I had the same feeling as you about the interior of the Rexall Drug store I had shown you before. It's not that you can see much through the windows but it's just knowing there is an interior of sorts.

So found pictures of scenes I thought would go well and scaled them to fit, I really like the picture of the baby boy. AHAHAHA

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Ray, those are all great looking rooms!  Yes the baby boy is a hoot!  I'm hoping to get to some layout benchwork building fairly soon.  Working on a few building kits is just a diversion while I am recuperating.  I can use the time when I start back on benchwork for collecting interior ideas, materials, and photographs to use later on the interiors.

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Well guys, finally back to work.  My current project is adjacent to the layout.  I am finally installing the Glenn Display shelving that I purchased about a month ago.  This will give me much more storage than I currently have and I plan to use the first one or two shelves as a "ready track" for trains that I run but I cannot store on the layout (too many trains and not enough track ).  This picture is just the start of the job with the shelving location grid marked on the wall and the studs found.  Today or tomorrow I hope to drill and install the shelving.  More pictures to follow as the job goes on.

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Alot of work in the train room this week. I added 48 feet of display shelf. Replaced the ceiling tile that house a heating duct; it was starting to sag. Re-did the top of my mountain adding the Menards nuclear plant and the spaceship re-doing the surrounding scenery. A bought 2 halloween MTH ES-44 with 16 operating cars all in Halloween scheme. So the train room been a bustling. Next project is mounting lighting strips to the back of the layout facing the back wall so colored light shines up the wall. 

Morning Lew, The picture you posted was my first try and after installing it things just went bad! LOL The allthread would just bounce up and down as the motor turned and there was no way to add a support system for the rod. So I went with something like yours with a pully system that ran 50 Lb fishing line on. I will try and get a picture of it before I take it down to rework it for the cranes new location. I also added a few other things to try and make it run back and forth smoother, but will post photos of that when I get it all installed. Mark is right I know I have more projects then time, but please keep them coming and I will just add them to my huge list of things to do on the layout!

Ray, great work on the building interiors! I agree the baby boy is something else! LOL

Don, Looks like a good start. I look forward to seeing the shelves up and trains on them!

Mark, Look good! The Fawn color worked perfect! I think its going to look great on the future layout! Keep your eyes open you should be getting the parts for your crane today!

Bob, You have been busy! When you get a chance I sure would like to see the MTH Halloween train along with some photos of your layout and train room!

Well I hope everyone is having a great weekend! I hope to get to the train room today if not for sure tomorrow and it will be trains and NASCAR! I am taking the day off! LOL

I hope everyone finds time for there layout and trains! But most of all I hope everyone has a great weekend and has some fun!

 

mike g. posted:

Morning guys, its been a few day and a lot had happened so here I go. Oh By the way I read Alan's psot so this is all train related!

Paul 2, Your buildings are coming along nicely! Great idea on the backdrops and the loading docks! I cant wait to see them in place!

Bob, your building is going to be a nice addition to your layout! I agree that the backdrops at the end of the siding need its own backdrop behind them, but things are turning out very nice!

Lew, I plan on using the same system, but have to make it smaller as it now will be right above my Z4000 and wiring from my control panel. That will be one of my next projects along with getting the retaining wall along the back wall so I can ballast and be done back there so I can set building where I think I want them! As for the slot I am not sure if I will do that again, I might just ad some weight to the control wire so it will retract when the crane moves back and forth!

Johan, the scene your Santa Fe MP15 is in is just outstanding! Great work!

John, wonderful job on the women! I am glad you mentioned the problem with the paint as it gives me something to watch out for in the future. Nice work on the Canadian  Pacific baggage car!

Mark, the building is looking really good! I am wondering what you are going to do for a floor as I see there is not one right now?

Patrick, Nice work on the signals! Are you getting your relays from Azatrac ?

Russel, Great description of what your doing and nice photos of what you have done sofar! I was wondering in your next post if you might be able to post your track plan?

Ray, WOW! That looks amazing! Start to finish what great work! Makes one want to get a 3D printer and learn Cad! But CAD is a rough thing for slow learners like myself! LOL

I hope everyone has a great Friday and a wonderful weekend! Oh and don't forget to find some time for your trains and layouts! If anything just go out and run your trains till your happy!

Mike. Thank you very much. 🤝

Johan

 

 

 

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Matt,  Thank you.  Yes that one side especially looks like the bricklayers put that stuff in the mix these days that lets them lay bricks in colder weather without the mortar freezing as well.  It leaches out after a while.  

Mike, Thank you!  Annie is watching.  The regular mailman already came and left stuff in the box.  She gave him an ear beating, no doubt because no packages.  But sometimes they run a separate guy around with packages, so she is still on guard for him!  

Brian, You had better listen to Izzy!

I washed the parts last night for the AmeriTowne #301 Real Estate Office, that I think looks like a coal country company store.  At least that's what I'm going to use it for.  I'll make a thin wash of that Fawn color for the mortar on this one. 

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Brian - I wish that I lived closer, i'd come over and give you a hand.  You have a lot to do my friend.

Good luck.  Using clicker training with Lucy the conductor as well as hand signals.  She's picking up quickly but I'm not getting any train time. LOL.

          thanks Matt !   bring Lucy along,  I'm sure Izzy will keep her busy...

 

       I do have the upstairs,  12x35 all Alaska room I could use a hand with too...

 

                                             have a great weekend !!

 

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Well guys, my effort on mounting the Glen Snyder display shelves continued today.  We mostly positioned and mounted 7 of Glen's 6 foot O gauge display shelves.  These are really quality products and the extrusion is top notch.  You do have to drill them for mounting, which makes sense as you have to align the mounting holes with your wall studs.  It's a two person job as the 6 ft length is not heavy but cumbersome to align with only one person.  My wife agreed to help and so the two of us put the 7 shelves mostly in place.  They are fastened on both ends, leveled, and spaced so all hard detail work is done.  I now have to go back tomorrow an add the remaining support screws in the stud holes I drilled.  Candidly at 76 and 75 the hardest part of this effort is that the drilling equipment is in the garage and the layout is on the second floor.  Stair climbing was harder than working on the shelves  So here is 42 ft of extra display shelving almost ready to hold trains.

Have a great weekend

Don McErlean

 

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Painting Preiser 65602 Seated People 24 pack.

These are a few of the pictures for the post on painting the Preiser 65602 figures.  I am showing pictures and leaving notes today on issues I want to discuss as I revise this final post. 

The Four Unpainted Sprues sell for an average of $37.50 (US) in Preiser 65602 24 pack.  If Preiser painted them, the five factory packs total over $150.00 for the 24 people.  This is why I paint my own figures.

Tamiya XF-15 "Flesh" flat acrylic paint.  Paint should dip downward and run up into the brush by capillary action.  When paint pushes downward only, like a drumhead, it is time to stir or shake the paint and rinse the brush.

Quality brushes yield a quality paint job.  I have used Atlas brushes for years and recently switched to Tamiya brushes at $10-12.00 each.  87153 - Ultra Fine,  87154 - Extra Fine,  87155 - Fine.  As the number increases, the bristle length is longer.  Ultra Fine for ties and repairing final inspection errors.  Extra Fine for most painting of figures,  Fine for painting the interior of passenger cars.

The 24 figures have received the first coat of XF-15 Flesh flat acrylic paint.  Mold parting oils can cause open white unpainted spots to appear on the flesh of the figures.  Check for needed touch-up.  Avoid too heavy a coat of paint on faces - the eyes can be filled in and detail lost due to too much paint.

Paint neck ties, walking canes and Ultra Fine details of clothes after flesh is dry.  (Opps, sloppy painted ties and brown cane and purse will be trimmed by white shirts and blue dresses in next step.)

Paint shirt on either side of neck tie.  Paint Coat on either side of dress shirt, or paint dresses.

Paint hair and shoes.

There are very fine lines molded into the Preiser 65602 figures for hairlines and act as guides when painting.  The similar figures from China do not have these fine lines, or eye and face details, and need an extra coat of paint to cover the China figures.

I will be updating this post until all ideas are recorded.  Any questions are welcome.  Picture updates of the 24 figures will be pictured here as I paint them, step by step: ties, shirts, coats, hair, then shoes.  

UPDATE: 2/16/20 - I painted Women in BLUE clothes.  Next box will be Pink, Yellow, Green and Lavender pastel colors I mixed.  The men will have light grey and tan suits.  Hair colors will be Earth Red, Sandy Blonde, and Rust Red with some Grey for older figures.  It is time to pull figures off the Sprues to continue painting.  I use an emery board to sand the sprue points off the figures.  (The Dremel Tool is to severe and creates a scratching that does not paint well.)

The figures are off the sprues and getting painting of clothes, hair and shoes.  Anyone can do this painting of Preiser 65602 Seated People when taken one step at a time.  It is time to do the final inspection and touch up.

UPDATE: 2/17/20 - I have started the second box of 24 Seated People in Pink and Grey clothes. The Pink are ready to come off the Sprues.  Yellow will be next.  Now doing Green.

Have a good week.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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  • IMG_1573: A 24 pack of BLUE dressed women. Next Pink, Yellow, Green and Lavender.
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I'm continuing on my machine shop build. I put the second coat on the lintels and sills and started on the windows.
I noticed that the building looked short sitting next to the track on my bench so I put a car in front and the dock is about a 1/2" lower than the car door. I think it will be easier to raise the terrain for the building to sit on than adding to the foundation. Once I get it assembled and on the layout I will decide.

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YEA! the shelving job is finished.  Thanks to 23 hand driven screws into studs that seemed hard as rocks, they are all up and fully fastened.  These seem so solid I could climb them like a ladder but Glenn Systems does not give any advice on using every stud or every other stud etc. so I used every stud in the 6 ft length.  It may take several days for the arthritic thumb / hand joints to recover but the job is done.  By the way, if you try to use this system and I do recommend it, as the material is very high quality,  you will need a couple of extensions on both your drill and your driver.  The 4" width of the shelf itself makes it hard to power drive the screws without interference to the drill body unless you have an extension (I of course did not...)

Here is a picture of the first "Completion Ceremony Train Arrival" - just like Promontory- It s a1938 uncataloged Lionel freight consisting of a Gunmetal / Nickel trim 249E , a Lionel 1717 Gon in orange / wood trim, a Lionel 1719 Box in green and blue roof, and the Lionel 1722 Caboose in orange with red roof. Lionel never put these lithographed , "Ives transition" cars in the catalog but did offer them in some uncatalogued sets. 

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Have a great Sunday fellas...I am taking the rest of the day off and soaking my hands!!

Don McErlean

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LIRR Steamer, corners are sometimes hard to come up with something. With the way your tracks are if I had that corner I would come out of the corner with a small river to a waterfall under the top track to a bridges on the lower tracks coming out the side of the table.

Mark, nice work on your building so far.

Today I have been working on the loading docks. Decided to do one wooden dock and one concrete dock. The wooden dock has the leg supports. The other dock I had to add another 1 1/2 inches for length. Once the glue dries I can do some more work on them. Pics...............Paul

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