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LIONEL would have to make the Standard O gondolas with the angled coil covers in the PENN CENTRAL scheme.

PC 606502, gondola, Cleveland, Ohio. Photo by Dick Ross. is an example of the PENN CENTRAL gondola

http://pc.smellycat.com/pics/equip/gons.html

Andrew

Andrew - As aways it's great to learn and look at things from different angles.

Please help me understand the differences between the KLine gondolas, produced by Lionel in DT&I and Ford a few years ago and the following:

http://pc.smellycat.com/pics/equip/pc752302dr.jpg

Jim

The K LINE injection molds are apparently being held by Bachmann Trains in CHINA.

The people at LIONEL would need to get the plans for an EVANS PRODUCT covered steel coil car and make an all new car.

Since they just acquired the MTH O scale covered steel coil car, that might be a bit difficult to make happen.

The LIONEL guys would most likely have to put the PENN CENTRAL scheme on both the Standard O 42' gondola with angled coil covers and the new O scale round cover steel coil car.

I am highly irritated that Bachmann is not yet including the Evans covered steel coil car made for K-Line in the Williams O scale line.


The box cars are described as 8-Door 86' High-Cube Boxcars.

The Detroit & Toledo ShoreLine reporting marks are D&TS.

http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-...?i=dts5700&o=dts

Andrew

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Additional question - saw earlier response first - how did Lionel get at least one run of the old KLine coil cars, DT&I, Ford and possibly others??? then lose rights to tooling?  Just curious.  Thanks, Jim

What I really would like to see next time Lionel brings out the Alco S2 tooling is a LIRR one in blue and yellow.

Lionel did the C420 in this scheme a few years ago and MTH just recently did a Trainworld exclusive RS3 in the same colors.

Due to MTH not having the rights to use the MTA’s logos, if They decide to do a custom run of the S2 in blue and yellow, it automatically won’t be accurate. Their latest RS3 required removal of inaccurate lettering on the cab and hood as well as placing of decals for it to look right, I’d love if Lionel just did the S2 correctly out of the gate with no modification needed!

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@DETROIT posted:

Additional question - saw earlier response first - how did Lionel get at least one run of the old KLine coil cars, DT&I, Ford and possibly others??? then lose rights to tooling?  Just curious.  Thanks, Jim

The K-Line by LIONEL agreement ended when Bachmann had all of the other model railroad companies move their production of the Sanda-Kan factory about 10 years ago.



Andrew

Sure… and add in some Canadian military freight cars as well.

Now that you've mentioned foreign military cars, Lionel made a NATO flatcar with a British submarine in the past.... Why not go the extra mile and add some military equipment from other nations that we've fought alongside with or even against for the heck of it? Have a 6 pack of cars with one tank from each of the major nations that fought in WW2 (America, England, Russia, Germany, Japan, Italy) with some addon packs featuring other vehicles from these nations like tank destroyers or halftracks.

During the Canadian Pacific's  CP Rail Multimark era they had a division called CP Transport and CP Express & Transport.

The CP Transport scheme can be applied to the O scale 40' trailers with reefers or refrigerator units.

A few photos as examples on this web page. 

https://www.pwrs.ca/view_product.php?ProductID=225975

http://whiteriverdivision.blogspot.com/2020/07/

The regular CP Rail scheme can also be applied to the O scale 40' trailers

The CN Piggback scheme from the 1970's needs to be put on the O scale 40' trailers



Andrew

Feel like beating a dead horse, but I'm still holding out for B36-7's with kinematic pilots and scale coupler mounting pads, and a set of NJ Transit Arrow-series MU railcars (multiple phases, too). Maybe Lionel got the MTH tooling for the L-series NYC Mohawks? Those might be nice to see with LEGACY.

For a more realistic expectation though, maybe a rerun of the Pennsylvania M1A/M1B - the latter hasn't been seen since 2008 - and the Dreyfuss Hudson with multiple tender and deco variants. Still holding out for a rerun of the F-19e Chesapeake & Ohio George Washington 4-6-2 Pacific's, too...

@MartyE posted:

I'd really like to see them do some innovative accessories and operating cars.  As much as I'd like them to have Legacy in them, it seems the cost ins't worth it so I'll take  conventional operating accessories that are new and creative.  New tooling or creative use of existing in booth cars and other trackside accessories.

YES!

I mentioned this earlier elsewhere because accessories really do make it a "LIONEL" (in the old-time sense) three-rail, fun layout.

Legacy would certainly be a bonus, if do-able.

Hey, Ryan!  Hey, Dave!

@Mikado 4501 posted:

For a more realistic expectation though, maybe a rerun of the Pennsylvania M1A/M1B - the latter hasn't been seen since 2008 - and the Dreyfuss Hudson with multiple tender and deco variants. Still holding out for a rerun of the F-19e Chesapeake & Ohio George Washington 4-6-2 Pacific's, too...

Agreed on the Dreyfuss that seems like a nobrainer with the MTH tooling. Would love to see a C&O F-19 rerun with a better whistle! I haven’t pulled the trigger on the prior version for that reason

It would be cool if they did a run of B&O P7 Pacifics and at least offered the option of any of the 20 Presidents.  I don't know if all of them would get enough orders, but it would be cool to have the option.  If they really wanted to swing for the fences, they could also offer the streamlined versions.



I'm an NYC guy, but I'd open up my wallet for a President Grant and one of the streamlined versions (any road #)

One MPC reefer in my rolling stock inventory is the Red Lobster reefer from the Burger King "set". It is one of my favorites. I wouldn't mind seeing a 57 foot mechanical reefer that is decorated for Red Lobster.

I would also like to see 57 foot mechanical reefers decorated for Coca Cola. A Google search for Coca Cola reefers turns up all sorts of fantastic schemes; especially LGB's but others too.

I would also like to see 57' mechanical reefers for PepsiCo, Sprite, Dr Pepper, Tab, Jolt, and many others. A lot of potential fun in that.

In addition to popular soft drinks one could do the fast food chains and other restaurants.

lionchief plus 2.0 Gp38

New haven EP5 Electric that fits o 36

another batch of lionchief plus 2.0 GG1s with a penn central gg1

a New Haven lionchief set

New Haven Wash boards

new haven heavy weights that can fit an o 36 curve

lionchief plus 2.0 Alco Fa in Pennsy and New Haven

Plug n play Penn Central yard tower

Fast track hump yard set

plug n play White House

The RoadRailer 53' trailers on bogies and standard 53' Trailers were transferred from Bowser to Weaver Models, then all of Weaver Models cars made in the USA were turned into the LionScale line made in the USA.

The RoadRailers and Trailers need to be made for the LionScale line, based on monthly orders, in new and old paint schemes including:

Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway

Santa Fe

Canadian National

Hub Group

EMP

J.B.HUNT

SCHNEIDER



Andrew

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