As far as I am concerned, if it hasn’t been made with Lionel Legacy, it hasn’t been made before. Therefore, add it to the Lionel Catalog wish list. Add MTH items to the MTH wish list thread.
If Lionel were to pick up the DMI&R Yellowstone tooling from MTH I couldn't pass it up.
I would like to see an sd40-2 in a Lake State Railway scheme. The colors of these engines would look great on a model.
@Vandey posted:I would like to see an sd40-2 in a Lake State Railway scheme. The colors of these engines would look great on a model.
Where is it based out of?
Also, I would like to see GP38s in New England Central Railroad. MTH did these but since they already cost as much as a Legacy locomotive I’m going to wait and hope Lionel makes them as a Legacy.
And yes, I did consider the MTH versionsbit adding in the cost to convert them t o Legacy or TMCC makes cost prohibitive.
The Lake State Railway is in Michigan. It used to be the Detroit & Mackinaw.
The Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range ACF CENTER FLOW 3560 cu ft. 3-bay covered hoppers were sold to the D&M.
The DMIR and DM patched version of the ACF CENTER FLOW 3-bay covered hoppers must be produced in the LionScale line of freight cars.
Andrew
The former Weaver GP38-2 diesel-electric locomotive models need to be produced in the USA in order to get a LEGACY O scale GP38-2 loco.
Andrew
@falconservice posted:The Lake State Railway is in Michigan. It used to be the Detroit & Mackinaw.
The Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range ACF CENTER FLOW 3560 cu ft. 3-bay covered hoppers were sold to the D&M.
The DMIR and DM patched version of the ACF CENTER FLOW 3-bay covered hoppers must be produced in the LionScale line of freight cars.
Andrew
It is a very sharp paint scheme!
O scale ILLINOIS TERMINAL yellow 52' gondola
Andrew
LionScale O scale Santa Fe SuperFleet scheme RoadRailer trailers on bogie trucks in sets of 4 or sets of 6.
LionScale O scale Canadian National RoadRailer scheme RoadRailer trailers on bogie trucks in sets of 4 or sets of 6.
LionScale O scale Chesapeake & Ohio RoadRailer trailers on bogie trucks
Andrew
Dash 9 in the BNSF H1 scheme. Don't think Lionel has done this before.
@GenesisFan99 posted:The MTH version doesn’t come with whistle steam, that’s a big one for me and a good amount of customers I sell to.
The other reason I suggested it is because it would sell. Like all models, you have to justify making one by doing several different versions. Using a rough base for a Hudson and doing many versions from it makes more money than niche Hudsons alone. If an ATSF Hudson sold, people like me who would want a Lackawanna Hudson and a Wabash Hudson could attempt to convince Lionel to produce other Hudsons from a rough base.
Think brass hybrid ATSF Hudson, allowing for brass hybrid Wabash, Lackawanna, CB&Q, etc.
Agreed, I'd be in for a scale Lackawanna Hudson. I have no use for anything DCS so even if MTH made one, I'd pass on it. The club I'm part of only runs TMCC and Legacy command systems. At home, I love the Bluetooth for simplicity.
@GenesisFan99 posted:The MTH version doesn’t come with whistle steam, that’s a big one for me and a good amount of customers I sell to.
The other reason I suggested it is because it would sell. Like all models, you have to justify making one by doing several different versions. Using a rough base for a Hudson and doing many versions from it makes more money than niche Hudsons alone. If an ATSF Hudson sold, people like me who would want a Lackawanna Hudson and a Wabash Hudson could attempt to convince Lionel to produce other Hudsons from a rough base.
Think brass hybrid ATSF Hudson, allowing for brass hybrid Wabash, Lackawanna, CB&Q, etc.
Great post. I’ve long assumed a brass hybrid was the only way we would get a Legacy NKP #170 Hudson. After MTH’s latest announcement, I’m now assuming a brass hybrid may be the only way we get a Legacy Dreyfuss.
To your point, a catalog with these Hudson variations would get expensive very quickly for a lot of folks.
EDIT: With MTH’s latestest-latetest announcement that indicated more of its tooling has been purchased by a buyer who will be named “later this summer,” maybe a Legacy Dreyfuss still has a pulse outside of the brass hybrid option.
I'd like to see a Legacy 2-8-0 styled after the Baldwin design (such as Southern 722). That design would be adaptable to many, many road names.
@Madockawando posted:MTH did these but since they already cost as much as a Legacy locomotive I’m going to wait and hope Lionel makes them as a Legacy.
I must have missed Lionel's price reduction
Thinking EMD E6’s in a variety of road names w/ super-bass B units will be a possibility. Seaboard ABA “orange blossom special” with matching 18” heavyweights. Also UP-CNW-SP City of San Francisco ABB with a matching 1941 consist would be a nice consideration.
I'm still wishing for someone to make the GE B36-7's and the NJ Transit Arrow III EMU Commuter Cars, but maybe I should lower my expectations a bit more.
I know some have said to give us LEGACY + Bluetooth reissues of the M1A, K4, Dreyfuss Hudson, and F40PH (which I'm all for), however, logically speaking, there's a few models Lionel should still have the tooling for that have never had a LEGACY release:
- The Hiawatha 4-4-2 Atlantic
- The Chesapeake & Ohio F-19 Pacific (the George Washington)
- The Union Pacific M10000
Legacy RS-3's in Lehigh Valley, Lehigh and Hudson River, PRR..Endless possibilities..
O scale
TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat car with L&N auto rack
TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat car with SCL auto rack
Andrew
O scale freight car
Western Pacific exterior-braced 50' double-door box car
WP 38267
https://www.railcarphotos.com/...s.php?PhotoID=122148
Built in January 1980
Andrew
@Mikado 4501 posted:I'm still wishing for someone to make the GE B36-7's and the NJ Transit Arrow III EMU Commuter Cars, but maybe I should lower my expectations a bit more.
I know some have said to give us LEGACY + Bluetooth reissues of the M1A, K4, Dreyfuss Hudson, and F40PH (which I'm all for), however, logically speaking, there's a few models Lionel should still have the tooling for that have never had a LEGACY release:
- The Hiawatha 4-4-2 Atlantic
- The Chesapeake & Ohio F-19 Pacific (the George Washington)
- The Union Pacific M10000
Agreed on the Hiawatha! It's time for a Legacy with whistle steam.
Jim
@Jim Sandman posted:Agreed on the Hiawatha! It's time for a Legacy with whistle steam.
Jim
I would be interested in the Hiawatha, but it should NOT have whistle steam. The A-classes were given air horns due to their high operating speeds. It would most likely be more like the Pennsy S1 from 2020v2, with a horn and a different smoke feature instead.
@Harry's Trains posted:I would be interested in the Hiawatha, but it should NOT have whistle steam. The A-classes were given air horns due to their high operating speeds. It would most likely be more like the Pennsy S1 from 2020v2, with a horn and a different smoke feature instead.
Good info. Thanks!
Jim
@Will Ebbert posted:Dash 9 in the BNSF H1 scheme. Don't think Lionel has done this before.
They have made one Will. It was cataloged in the 2013 volume 1 catalog. Part number for it is 6-39571.
The M10000 is a must. The Hiawatha and PRR M1 are also great ideas. The roadrailers need to be made. Lionel does have the tooling from Weaver (or Bowser; I don't remember which).
The Wabash National RoadRailers were made by Bowser, then by Weaver.
They never got around to producing the Canadian National and Santa Fe Warbonnet schemes on the RoadRailers.
Andrew
I would really like to see some new Amtrak Stuff from Lionel!
The Chargers and the ACS electric locos would be great!
I'd also love to see an Acela Avelia model, particularly one that can take 0-36 curves. It would be a great candidate for fantasy/heritage schemes and starter sets too, with its two-wheel truck design. Lionel could save a lot of money on not having to build a smoke unit for it as well. I think it would get a lot of young railfans to buy it and get into the hobby. Same goes for the current Acela Models. I want to run these on my 0-36 layout so bad!
I have catenary and everything, ready to go.
In the 50s, Lionel built models of trains that were around then, and young people and kids gobbled them up. Why not try that now?
@John m 43 posted:I would really like to see some new Amtrak Stuff from Lionel!
The Chargers and the ACS electric locos would be great!
I'd also love to see an Acela Avelia model, particularly one that can take 0-36 curves. It would be a great candidate for fantasy/heritage schemes and starter sets too, with its two-wheel truck design. Lionel could save a lot of money on not having to build a smoke unit for it as well. I think it would get a lot of young railfans to buy it and get into the hobby. Same goes for the current Acela Models. I want to run these on my 0-36 layout so bad!
I have catenary and everything, ready to go.
In the 50s, Lionel built models of trains that were around then, and young people and kids gobbled them up. Why not try that now?
Considering that the current Acela is 054 or 072, I don think they could get the old Acela (and probably not the new one) engineered down to 036. They could make the cars semi scale (like railking imperial) and make a lc+2.0 set. I also like the Acela, but not enough to justify the price or amount of space it would require.
an LC 2.0 SANTA FE flyer set
lionchief plus 2.0 level 0-8-0
iCarly train set- since iCarly is coming back this month on paramount plus i'd figure lionel to make a train set with authentic Miranda Cosgrove announcements or atleast an iCarly boxcar that plays the theme song "Leave it all to me".
@John m 43 posted:Yes, I would suggest that they would be semi-scale, or at least shorted/squished.
It could be a bit like the Lionel prewar "City of Denver" set or the Marklin "my world" ICE set.
And take a look at how short those cars on are the Avelia. It would led itself nicely to smaller radii, I would think.
I like the idea! Considering my basic layout plan would be 1 o54 loop with another o42 inner, I would be interested at the right price.
@John m 43 posted:I would really like to see some new Amtrak Stuff from Lionel!
The Chargers and the ACS electric locos would be great!
I'd also love to see an Acela Avelia model, particularly one that can take 0-36 curves. It would be a great candidate for fantasy/heritage schemes and starter sets too, with its two-wheel truck design. Lionel could save a lot of money on not having to build a smoke unit for it as well. I think it would get a lot of young railfans to buy it and get into the hobby. Same goes for the current Acela Models. I want to run these on my 0-36 layout so bad!
I have catenary and everything, ready to go.
In the 50s, Lionel built models of trains that were around then, and young people and kids gobbled them up. Why not try that now?
I like to think I'm still fairly young at 38.... but my daughter would disagree 🤣. Anyways, modern trains aren't all that interesting to me personally. I guess the only modern diesels that really interest me are the NS and UP heritage units (I'd love a scale legacy Lackawanna 1074) but I don't get excited by modern freight trains or amtrak. I also, have no love for any electric locomotives (old or new) or subways either. My interest by and large is scale steam and scale first generation diesels. I'm also not crazy about semi-scale (curse of coming from HO scale i guess).
O scale
TTGX TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat car with a SOO 'The Soo Line Railroad company' auto rack painted between 1988 and 1992.
Andrew
@Jim Sandman posted:Agreed on the Hiawatha! It's time for a Legacy with whistle steam.
Jim
The Hiawatha would have to be made with safety valve steam or cylinder steam because that engine never had a steam whistle. Like the S1, it should have 3 horns and 2 whistles, but I'm with you on this one.
I know, it's been done twice- and of course has sold out due to popularity. I vote for another round of FEFs, this time with Bluetooth control and cylinder steam (or whistle steam). Will Lionel make it a Vision Line edition? Most likely to pump up sales. And another reissue of new UP auxiliary water tenders, please.
Geno
@72blackbird posted:I know, it's been done twice- and of course has sold out due to popularity. I vote for another round of FEFs, this time with Bluetooth control and cylinder steam (or whistle steam). Will Lionel make it a Vision Line edition? Most likely to pump up sales. And another reissue of new UP auxiliary water tenders, please.
Geno
I'd be in for an 844. Personally I would like the water tenders to be bare bones. They are way too expensive for what should just be a freight car IMO. No need for Legacy and all the other tech.
Here is a thought for a Vision Line locomotive that might work: GE C30-7. It’s by far the most common 2nd gen GE diesel and would have a slew of road names - both past and present - that could be modeled. I would also mention the SD40-2, but they have just run that recently as a standard scale loco.
Just a thought.
Correction: They just made a scale run of the SD40, not SD40-2. My bad.
Would love to see C&O/Virginian Kanawhas!
LionScale SOO LINE high-sided four-bay open-top hopper set
60331-60429 odd numbers
Andrew
Pedestrian Crossover
John
When is the release date for the 2021 Volume 2 catalog? The answer may have been posted earlier, but I can't find it. Thanks.
Pat
