3rd Rail Wishlist Request Future Engines

FAs are receiving a lot of reservations so while it will remain on the list for a while, pre-orders do need to pick up.  I'd be in for set of PRR ones, but honestly I am up to my ears in Pennsy equipment now that didn't really run on the NY&LB. 

F9s are a possibility. However with only 101 A units built in total and with most going to NP (38), ATSF (18), and NdeM (10),  I'm not sure there would be enough orders to get to 500 units.  Some NdeM ones would be kind of fun though.  

Steam is simply hard to gauge (so to speak) anymore. Personally a PRR D16sb American Standard would be of interest to me, but not holding out for it.  That or a CNJ Atlantic camelback ... wait CNJ anything outside of a 10 wheeler at this point, steam or diesel that is accurate.   Maybe DRS 6-4-2000 and accurate coaches? 

Can't wait for my CNJ GP7Ps!  

GG1 4877 posted:

That or a CNJ Atlantic camelback ... wait CNJ anything outside of a 10 wheeler at this point, steam or diesel that is accurate.   Maybe DRS 6-4-2000 and accurate coaches? 

Count me in for some accurate CNJ coaches!

Bryce

How come MTH and Lionel get away with re running steam over and over but 3rd rail doesn’t? 

That is a great question!  There are a few I'd like to see rerun.  Quality over quantity? 

I don't have a good answer Santiago.  That is a good question for Scott.

I brought this question to Scott a couple of weeks ago, Jonathan. This is not to say we all love the fresh projects coming from Scott, what a blessing. But a lot of us missed on some very special projects. 

I suggested his ATSF 3700 class 4-8-2s. Gary Schrader did an outstanding job w the research.... and the models are spectacular!

GG1 4877 posted:

...That or a CNJ Atlantic camelback ... wait CNJ anything outside of a 10 wheeler at this point, steam or diesel that is accurate.   Maybe DRS 6-4-2000 and accurate coaches? 

Can't wait for my CNJ GP7Ps! 

I couldn't agree more, Jonathan!!  I'm more into freight than passenger equipment, so for CNJ steam, I'd love to see an accurate Heavy Mikado...or 0-8-0 switcher with "regular" end cab (not Camelback) as nothing that's been offered by Lionel or MTH are even close to prototypical for the CNJ.

I'm also looking forward to receiving my pair of GP7P's.  These will be my first 3rd rail purchases.

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

How come MTH and Lionel get away with re running steam over and over but 3rd rail doesn’t? 

Both MTH and Lionel steam locomotive models are die-cast, thus they MUST run and re-run many, MANY models off that tooling in order to get a return on their investment. 

Sunset/3rd Rail steam locomotive models are hand made of "lifetime" brass, thus there are no "molds" nor "tooling". Only jigs & fixtures are involved in forming/making brass steam locomotive models, plus the use of investment castings, i.e. "lost wax", of the various add-on detail components.

I’m fully aware of the production differences... 

I didn’t mean how do they make them 

I meant how come there’s a market for re-issued steam for certain manufacturers and not for others, specially when 3rd Rail has a record for being the best of the three.

Scott could still profit by reusing the several jigs and forming tools used in brass productions. 

Could it be that Scott has a Duchampian attitude of not “repeating himself?”

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

I’m fully aware of the production differences... 

I didn’t mean how do they make them 

I meant how come there’s a market for re-issued steam for certain manufacturers and not for others, specially when 3rd Rail has a record for being the best of the three.

Thats is a rhetorical question.

Scott could still profit by reusing the several jigs and forming tools used in brass productions. 

Such is NOT how the Korean/Chinese brass model maker work.

Could it be that Scott has a Duchampian attitude of not “repeating himself?”

I personally believe that Scott understands his market well enough to NOT "repeat" limited production models of steam locomotives.

There’s a few things on my 3rd rail wish list. First speaking of sunset re-running models they already produced, I would love a re-run of the Fl9’s.  I would do New Haven. 

For new reservations here’s my top Pennsylvania R1 electric in brass, PRR K5, (from what I’ve heard Scott was taking reservations on a K5 but didn’t get enough) for real!!!!!, and finally a properly done 2-8-8-8-4 Virginian triplex. (Mth did the 2-8-8-8-2 Erie triplex with Virginian lettered on it.... not correct)

Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

PRR K5, (from what I’ve heard Scott was taking reservations on a K5 but didn’t get enough) for real!!!!!

I think a K5 would be neat but is there a market big enough for a relatively expensive medium sized one-off engine.  I say one-off because the two experimental K5s were somewhat different, built in different shops.  While the K5 was not successful, Pennsy fans still would like to have one.  But I don't see a lot of non-Pennsy fan appeal for it since there are so many K4s out there (yes, the K5 is bigger so there is a difference). 

Right now I wonder why Sunset/3rd Rail isn't making a PRR FA1 since they are making other roads with the small position light.  But I am not making the decisions for a very small import company trying to make a profit with increasing costs and an aging customer base.

I just hope Sunset/3rd Rail stays around a while making their great products.  This topic is on its 9th page and there are a lot of great ideas for Scott to choice from.

With the production and successful sale of  "vest pocket streamliners", the CRI&P Rockets, I am still lobbying for yet one or two more:  The SLSF Firefly.  And the CB&Q 9908 General Pershing Zephyr. 

CAPPilot posted:

Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

PRR K5, (from what I’ve heard Scott was taking reservations on a K5 but didn’t get enough) for real!!!!!

I think a K5 would be neat but is there a market big enough for a relatively expensive medium sized one-off engine.  I say one-off because the two experimental K5s were somewhat different, built in different shops.  While the K5 was not successful, Pennsy fans still would like to have one.  But I don't see a lot of non-Pennsy fan appeal for it since there are so many K4s out there (yes, the K5 is bigger so there is a difference). 

I just hope Sunset/3rd Rail stays around a while making their great products.  This topic is on its 9th page and there are a lot of great ideas for Scott to choice from.

The K5 offering was bad timing- especially for 3 rail fans as Lionel and MTH continue to flood the market with K4 engines. 

For a slightly unique pacific, I would hope Sunset looks at the K3 for BOTH the PRR and the N&W. That unique trailing truck and that two big railroads owned the same loco should create enough orders. Im in for either the K5 as well as the K3!

The PRR 2-8-8-0 Is another unique loco that Sunset should create in O scale and 3 rail too!

SW1s would be sweet too!

I'm sure I mentioned this a few pages ago but RS 1 or 3 in Rutland thank you very much.

superwarp1 posted:

I'm sure I mentioned this a few pages ago but RS 1 or 3 in Rutland thank you very much.

First, you gotta get it made. You can negotiate livery later.

RS units have been requested on several occasions.  All I can say, because it's all I know :-), is that once the current offerings are further along, the next diesel project isn't quite clear yet.

I would like to see the McKeen motor cars produced.  Also, the trailer if appropriate. 

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Jan

Jan posted:

I would like to see the McKeen motor cars produced.  Also, the trailer if appropriate. 

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Jan

I suspect drastically limited appeal. Maybe in brass...

rex desilets posted:

Jan posted:

I would like to see the McKeen motor cars produced.  Also, the trailer if appropriate. 

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Jan

I suspect drastically limited appeal. Maybe in brass...

Exactly!  By the way, just how many were built, what railroads had them, and how long did they last?