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Two modern 6464-515 MKT Girl's Train boxcars.  Car on the left is the NETCA "as cataloged" car.  Car on the right is the 1999 version; part of the 6464 remakes.  I assembled it from from parts and  used a yellow door as it's correct(ish) from MKT's yellow cars.  Lots of differences in fonts and placement of lettering between the two cars.DSC_0059DSC_0060DSC_0062

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Well Dave, I could not resist your opening with Central of Ga which was a principal RR in the area where our family spends summers (Tybee Island, just East of Savannah).  This one is Lionel (MPC)  and is a re-issue although it carries the original 6464 number its product number is 19279.  She is a 40 footer and uses a duplicate 6464 shell.

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Happy Sunday Everyone

Don

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My 027 "plug door" contribution for this week is an MPC Soo car from 1971 in "cherry red" of all things:

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And the hastily rubber-stamped end-flap on the box, again just big enough to hold the car with the couplers turned under the floor:

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"A Lifetime of Railroading," indeed! Tom @Krieglok shows us how this car should look:

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Next week's 027 offering will be a bit more fun...

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K-Line - a nicely decorated, but basically plain jane boxcar. Did they really ride the rails with no reporting marks?IMG_7758

@Bill Swatos posted:

A very nice car, Mark. I think she may have been an "express service" car that would have been included, from time to time, in the "Phoebe Snow" passenger consists of the day. She's painted to match their passenger car livery.

@Bill Swatos,

Bill,

Correct. The Legacy K-Line Trains website lists the car as K761-1641 Lackawanna Express Service Scale Boxcar.

MELGAR

@walt rapp posted:

from my now sold off collection of Pittsburgh related cars from MTH

- walt

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Speaking of Pittsburgh-related MTH cars, Walt, here's one celebrating KDKA, America's oldest radio station broadcasting for 104 years from your home town since 1920:

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The automobile is a 1957 Chrysler 300 and the station logo is from the '50's. Interestingly, they still use their original "K" designation likely because their founding predates the adoption of the broadcasting station convention of "W" for east of the Mississippi and "K" for west of it. I just couldn't resist it NIB on clearance from Forum sponsor Trainz.

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@Bill Swatos posted:

Speaking of Pittsburgh-related MTH cars, Walt, here's one celebrating KDKA, America's oldest radio station broadcasting for 104 years from your home town since 1920:

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The automobile is a 1957 Chrysler 300 and the station logo is from the '50's. Interestingly, they still use their original "K" designation likely because their founding predates the adoption of the broadcasting station convention of "W" for east of the Mississippi and "K" for west of it. I just couldn't resist it NIB on clearance from Forum sponsor Trainz.

Bill, I have lived 40 miles north of Pittsburgh, except for 13 years working in Virginia and Northern West Virginia years ago.  I'm with Walt, I have never seen that car before.  I have seen lots of the cars from Walt's photographs before.  There have been quite a few as Walt said.  Yes it is interesting KDKA has kept the 'K'.  There is another radio station in Pittsburgh that has always started with 'K' and is only 3 letters; KQV.

Dave, Thanks for getting us rolling on this Boxcar Sunday!

Here’s another plugdoor boxcar from a Lionel promotional set.
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I scrubbed this car last night with a soft toothbrush and a cleaner out of a reused bottle that I labeled train cleaner. It’s a clear solution. I’m thinking that it might have been an earlier recommendation on the forum.

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I ran a train with two New Haven boxcars – #35238 (Crown Model Products) and #78000 (MTH 20-99327) – behind Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal 0-6-0T steam switcher #15. The engine is a Lionchief Plus 2.0 model (2032020) and also the smallest O gauge steam engine model in my collection. Lionel lists its length as 8.5 inches. The engine is so small that it’s dwarfed in comparison to scenery and structures on the layout, and even the boxcars.

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@Sitka - Wow my man, you really are a risk taker.  I could imagine explaining to Mom why her cake was all over the lower level of your layout!  !

Well today since @pennsyfan has included a great boxcar from one of Lionel's foray's into the toy business (Kaybee Toys) I thought I might include a posting from their other venture "Toy's R Us"  this one a giraffe car featuring the famous "Geoffrey" the giraffe.  Made between 1985-1989 this car was always uncatalogued, usually offered in the train sets sold by Toy's "R" Us.

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Best wishes and Happy Mother's Day

Don

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Aaaand, as promised last week, here's a fun 027 "plugdoor" MPC offering from 1972, the #9301 Operating U.S. Mail Car:

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Though promoted as "new" on the box, this car is actually a reissue of the late PW original, #3428, which was produced from 1959-1960. Three PW versions were produced, the nicest (Variation C) having the postman in blue with a painted face and grey mailbag.

And now for the "action and excitement" and "great railroad realism" this car adds to your layout:

Now we know how our packages get damaged in the mail...

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@pennsyfan posted:

For this Boxcar Sunday I’m presenting this KLine custom car made for KLine Super Store M&G Hobbies; to honor Battleship New Jersey. I’m showing it today to honor the recent and ongoing activities of refloating her and  restoring / painting the hull. IMG_1548

I remember M&G Hobbies in New Jersey.  It was a nice little place.  I won a K-Line GG-1 in a customer raffle they had there.   Sorry the store didn't last.

@Mark Boyce posted:

Now I see the sharp car, Mark.  What does CLRC stand for?

Mark -good question! CLRC = Chicagoland Railroad Club. Besides Nassau Lionel Operating Engineers, (NLOE), I believe they’ve produced the most club cars, with St. Louis Lionel Railroad Club, NJHR, and Milwaukee Lionel RR Club not far behind. Trying to keep up with these clubs, plus TCA, METCA, NETCA, LCCA, TTOS, and LOTS, is a full time job!

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Mark -good question! CLRC = Chicagoland Railroad Club. Besides Nassau Lionel Operating Engineers, (NLOE), I believe they’ve produced the most club cars, with NJHR, and Milwaukee Lionel RR Club not far behind. Trying to keep up with these clubs, plus TCA, METCA, NETCA, LCCA, TTOS, and LOTS, is a full time job!

Thank you, Mark!  That makes good sense.  I have this train based on the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad that was commissioned by the Community Model Railroad club - Frostburg, Maryland.  They only put their name on the car named "Frostburg".  There is one express boxcar on this train, so I think it still fits in this thread. 

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I added LED lighting, but haven't acquired passengers yet.

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I rarely run trains on the O-36 inner loop of my 12’-by-8’ layout but I always leave a New Haven train with four steel boxcars, a diesel locomotive, and a caboose parked there. In the videos, the boxcars are New Haven #31709 (MTH) built 1944, NH #45097 (MTH) built 1953, NH #22114 (MTH) built 1948, and NH Express Service #36000 (K-Line) built 1941.

The current locomotive is New Haven Railroad Alco S-2 diesel switcher #0615 (MTH Premier 20-20587-1) and the caboose is C-681 (Atlas O).

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Thanks for starting us off  Dave!   Very good looking cars everyone!   Today I'm showing my Western Pacific boxcar by Weaver.  I applied a coat of Dullcote to take down the sheen.  As I model Maryland railroads of the Transition Era, the cars that dominate my rails are northeastern railroads.  When I was a kid growing up near the B&O mainline, I would often see freight cars ( especially boxcars ) from western and northwestern U.S. roads such as. Atchison Topeka and Santa Fe, Union Pacific, Southern Pacific, Northern Pacific, Great Northern,  and of course Western Pacific.  I felt it important to have a modest representation of these roads in my collection.  IMG_4085IMG_4096IMG_4087IMG_4089

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Reading Locomotive Shops class B-4A 0-6-0T steam switcher #1251 – model by Lionel – has been pulling two boxcars on my 10’-by-5’ layout – each with a hobo hitching a ride. Spokane Portland and Seattle #11091, model by K-Line, was built in 1945. Pennsylvania #19247, model by MTH, was built in 1959. The hobos are from Arttista.

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Well here is  one I just received from a successful auction bid (yes it was inexpensive) but I couldn't resist it because of the obvious picture of a Lionel 210 Alco FA "Texas Special" from 1958 and the fact that it is about a store in Dallas.  "Collectible Trains and Toys" is the name of a specialty store in Dallas, Texas which still operates today.  This boxcar by Kline commemorates their 10th anniversary in 1991 so that makes some 43 years this store has been operating and handling trains and toys.

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Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone.  Best Wishes

Don

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Here are my boxcars for this fine Sunday!   I'm showing several Western Maryland boxcars in 3 different lettering schemes/logos.   All of the photos were taken yesterday afternoon in the same location on my layout.

This is a Weaver boxcar with "speed lettering".

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This one is a MTH Premier boxcar with " speed lettering".  Note this lettering is much more crisp than the Weaver boxcar IMHO.

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Here we have a MTH Premier boxcar with the circular logo.

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The boxcar on the left is a MTH Premier with the Fireball logo.  The boxcar on the right is the Weaver shown in the top photograph.

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We have talked about Lionel's little 0-27 boxcars before, most of them going to special sets for particular commercial customers.  Here are two that were sponsored by "True-Value" Hardware stores in the 1970's.  Both uncatalogued, the #9053 green from 1977 and the # 9046 white from 1976.  Except for the color and the number, these two cars are exactly the same.  Likely added to a starter type train set that Lionel sold through True-Value at Holiday time.

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Happy Box Car Sunday everyone

Don

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@Don McErlean posted: We have talked about Lionel's little 0-27 boxcars before, most of them going to special sets for particular commercial customers.  Here are two that were sponsored by "True-Value" Hardware stores in the 1970's.  Both uncatalogued, the #9053 green from 1977 and the # 9046 white from 1976.  Except for the color and the number, these two cars are exactly the same.  Likely added to a starter type train set that Lionel sold through True-Value at Holiday time.
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Happy Box Car Sunday everyone

Don

Those two are cool Don. I've not seen them before.

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Me…..late, late, late! Power washing the house…🙄

Here are two cars I have done in the past, but I sold them both. So I had extra sets of decals and decided to recreate them during last week.

Both MTH cars, stripped and painted by me. K-4 Decals on both cars.

19th Century Boxcar done in the Big Four livery…with added details…maybe I will weather it…not decided yet!

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Then a MTH Premier 40’ boxcar done in a Rock Island green scheme. I bought a bottle of Rock Island green True Color paint and intended to paint the car using that. Then I was comparing colors and found that Tamiya German Field Green was just about a perfect match. So my lazy *** went with the rattle can Tamiya for this car.

Tamiya paint is great, but you have to careful with clear coats darkening the paint. I clear coat the plain painted car a few times with gloss spray, decal then hit it with a matte cover. It works well that way, so you don’t end up with light areas behind the decals…

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Here’s a Railking former sleeper MTHRRC boxcar, awoken with a kiss from Tom (Krieglok), and turned from scullery maid into a beauty. Terrific work, Tom. Thanks again!

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Mark, thank you for the kind words! The car was fun to paint with the two colors and the great decals from K-4.

I am usually afraid of closeups of my work, but you pics really did the car justice!

Tom

@Dave Ripp. posted:

Growing up next to the tracks in the 60's trough 80's I saw tank trains, hopper trains, and boxcar trains. I always liked the boxcar trains the best do to the variety of sizes and colors.  Let's see what you have on your pike.  Real boxcar pictures are good to as long as you have permission to use them or there your own.

I went all the way back in the Time Machine to Dave Ripp’s original post from 2017 that started this great ongoing topic thread to make sure I wasn’t breaking any rules with the following photo of a real boxcar!

In today’s graffiti-filled world of railroad freight cars, it seems like a special occasion (unfortunately!) to see a freshly-painted, squeaky-clean boxcar!  

I just couldn’t resist taking a photo of this CN (Grand Trunk Western) boxcar this past Wednesday, 5/29/24.  It has a “Built Date” of November, 2023, so it has survived about 6 months without graffiti…at least on this side of the car anyway!  It was traveling in a train on the Mass Central Railroad in Palmer, MA…

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While we're on the subject of CN, here's an MPC 027 plugdoor boxcar in EJ&E (a.k.a. "The J") "Chicago Outer Belt" livery:

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What, do you ask, has CN got to with EJ&E? Well, after a little over 120 years of independent operation, CN acquired most of its 164 miles of track on February 1, 2009, leaving a small portion in Indiana to be reorganized as the Gary Railway. While the CN repainted acquired locomotives in their colors, they continued to display the EJ&E roadname for another four years. Then, in 2012, CN announced the merger of EJ&E with another CN subsidiary, the Wisconsin Central. The merger was officially consummated on January 1, 2013, and the EJ&E ceased to exist exactly 124 years after it was founded on January 1, 1889.

This boxcar, acquired NIB from Forum sponsor Trainz, has a rather interesting "quirk" in that one end placard has "9700 SERIES" molded into it while this is actually a 9400 series car:

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Several sellers on the auction site (charging exorbitant prices) claim this situation is rare and indicates that cars bearing this type of "endprinting" discrepancy are among the few earliest produced by Lionel in a new series before they had changed the molds over completely from the previous series production. Any additional insight from you more knowledgeable folks would be appreciated.

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Well today boxcar fans I have a Kline boxcar from Kline's train manufacturer series.  This one commemorates Marx and it also contains the logo of the Toy Train Museum in Strasburg and carries a number TTM 7788 and a Kline number of 6419 with a blt date of 4/88.  Perhaps this was once sold in the Museum shop.  Being something of a Marx collector, when I saw this on e-bay I couldn't pass it up.  It is NIB and I won the auction at $12.95 !

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Best Wishes, hope your upcoming week goes well

Don

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Photos/video show Boston & Albany #53, a USRA 0-8-0 steam switcher on my 10’-by-5’ layout pulling B&A boxcar #55018 (Weaver/CMP), and New York Trumbull & Boston #777, an MTH car repainted and lettered by forum member @Krieglok. At the tail end is Boston & Albany wood caboose #1174 (K-Line).

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Lionel 655 plates and print box cars

Here are a couple of oldies for you...the one on the left is almost Lionel's first version of this car. It is the Lionel #655 with plates and all Ni trim  dating from 1935-1938 (car was introduced in 1933) and to the right is the last version, from 1942 with rubber stamping, box couplers, and blackened trim .

Happy Father's Day to all you Dad's out there.

Best Wishes

Don

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Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads out there!  Sometimes railroads repurpose boxcars.  The Jersey Central modified many 40’ outside-braced boxcars for use in company service, including tool cars, cable cars and blocking cars in their regionally-based wreck trains, or “service trains” as the CNJ called them.

Here are two 40’ outside-braced cars from AtlasO that I repainted, detailed, re-lettered and 3-rail scaled (with Kadees) several years ago into a tool car and cable car as part of the CNJ’s Ashley, Pennsylvania-based service (wreck) train.  They will eventually receive some light weathering…

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