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Memorial Day is tomorrow, a day we honor those who died in military service for our country. Our flag is flown from daylight until noon at half-staff in honor of our fallen. At noon, the flag is raised to full-staff by the living "who resolve not to let their sacrifices be in vain, but to raise up in their stead and continue the fight for liberty and justice for all." Quote from Home of Heroes.
Memorial Day is not a day of celebration, but a day of remembrance. I do not have any specific Memorial Day items to show, but I do have several cars with our flag in my Red-While-Blue collection. Here is my favorite:
While I do not have a flag pole, I will be flying my porch flag all day with the Black Mourning Streamer until noon.
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OK, I admit to stretching the thread but hey, it is a box!. Always loved the "tofcee" on this one....
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Here is a series of cars I did as volunteer manager of our Museum's gift shop for the Mid-Continent Ry. Museum in North Freedom, Wis. I had been wanting to do this for some time, and finally we did. I started out in HO only, and when I found Seymour Knight, of Pleasant Valley Process in Cogan Station, PA. I could now do all the cars I did in HO, in O gauge. And from then on, Seymour did new releases in HO and O. Unfortunately Seymour passed away on October 7, 2015 and my custom cars have come to a halt. I hope someday to find people to do these cars in HO and O in small quantities. I also did a few more boxcars, a caboose, and a couple of tank cars, and hopper cars. All these cars were using blanks from Weaver, who had a nice working relationship with Seymour. Keep in mind these were for fun, and I incorporated our Museum in many ways, including that the Museum fictitiously leased out the cars. Our slogan is used on some items at the Museum.
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jushavnfun:
Seeing that Baby Ruth car again made me smile! That car was in my first Lionel set from 1951 that my parents gave me when I was 6 years old. The set consisted of a Lionel 6110 steam engine and tender, that Baby Ruth car, a gondola and a caboose. I played with that set for hundreds of hours and my family added to it with Lionel accessories. I still have the set. If it was considered a starter set to get kids interested in trains, it WORKED!
John
Well here we are on BXCRSun: (Ok I just made up that acronym)...Great pictures all. corsair29 - love the wagon top B&O, CNJ#1601 great Jersey Central Box, Jeff B. Haertlein - great custom cars, wish I had one of those Russel's Dairy or Benders Feed Mill cars, they would fit really well on the Leonardtown and Savannah. CAPPilot - really liked your paragraph on the celebration for Memorial Day, afraid almost all our local celebrations, even the one at the Veterans Home (here since the Civil War!) were cancelled.
Perhaps making a small note of another kind of passing, here are some pictures of some businesses that are now or have previously passed into bankruptcy. These were stalwarts of most of the 20th and early 21st century (at least in my life) and are now gone or nearly gone. Victims of our new ways of shopping or consumer trends or ???? who knows. Anyway for Box Car Sunday, here is a small remembrance. The cars are mostly from my "plug door" box car collection.
First - my kids dream store - Toys R Us, founded 1948, modernized under a new mgmt team in '57, bankrupt 2017. By the way, Lionel made around 10 of these cars for this store, mostly differing in details,number, and decoration in the 70's and 80's. Two of them (at least 2 which is all I have) are "Giraffe" type cars with Geoffrey's head activated to duck down as the car passed a track trip.
Sears...my goodness where would we have been with out Sears? Founded in 1886 and by 2018 bankrupt. This plug door box car is from a Sears special Lionel set for their "Centennial Celebration" in 1986
The Kiddie City Hopper, note toy train fans that this was LIONEL Kiddie City from the 1980's onward although it was started in the 1960's. It grew under Lionel to be the 4th largest toy store chain in the US! In 1991 they filed for Chapter 11 and reduced their store count and by '93 they were gone. (OK I know its not a box car but I couldn't resist the Lionel connection)
Finally, where we always took our kids (born in the 70's) for their "good clothes" - after we shopped at Sears for most everything else. Founded in 1902 and filed for bankruptcy in 2020. This car from their 75th anniversary in 1977. Special car made by Lionel.
Best wishes for Box Car Sunday to all
Enjoy the Holiday
Don
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A long box car train passes the Terryville yard on main line track #1.
Unloading on the siding at the Home Depot.
Fresh ham unloading in the Terryville yard.
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@Don McErlean posted:Well here we are on BXCRSun: (Ok I just made up that acronym)...Great pictures all. corsair29 - love the wagon top B&O, CNJ#1601 great Jersey Central Box, Jeff B. Haertlein - great custom cars, wish I had one of those Russel's Dairy or Benders Feed Mill cars, they would fit really well on the Leonardtown and Savannah. CAPPilot - really liked your paragraph on the celebration for Memorial Day, afraid almost all our local celebrations, even the one at the Veterans Home (here since the Civil War!) were cancelled.
Perhaps making a small note of another kind of passing, here are some pictures of some businesses that are now or have previously passed into bankruptcy. These were stalwarts of most of the 20th and early 21st century (at least in my life) and are now gone or nearly gone. Victims of our new ways of shopping or consumer trends or ???? who knows. Anyway for Box Car Sunday, here is a small remembrance. The cars are mostly from my "plug door" box car collection.
First - my kids dream store - Toys R Us, founded 1948, modernized under a new mgmt team in '57, bankrupt 2017. By the way, Lionel made around 10 of these cars for this store, mostly differing in details,number, and decoration in the 70's and 80's. Two of them (at least 2 which is all I have) are "Giraffe" type cars with Geoffrey's head activated to duck down as the car passed a track trip.
Sears...my goodness where would we have been with out Sears? Founded in 1886 and by 2018 bankrupt. This plug door box car is from a Sears special Lionel set for their "Centennial Celebration" in 1986
The Kiddie City Hopper, note toy train fans that this was LIONEL Kiddie City from the 1980's onward although it was started in the 1960's. It grew under Lionel to be the 4th largest toy store chain in the US! In 1991 they filed for Chapter 11 and reduced their store count and by '93 they were gone. (OK I know its not a box car but I couldn't resist the Lionel connection)
Finally, where we always took our kids (born in the 70's) for their "good clothes" - after we shopped at Sears for most everything else. Founded in 1902 and filed for bankruptcy in 2020. This car from their 75th anniversary in 1977. Special car made by Lionel.
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Yea Don:Thanks for the compliments on our custom cars. About all that is left is the nice Effinger car and maybe three of the Canning Factory car
Best wishes for Box Car Sunday to all
Enjoy the Holiday
Don
@John Knapp posted:jushavnfun:
Seeing that Baby Ruth car again made me smile! That car was in my first Lionel set from 1951 that my parents gave me when I was 6 years old. The set consisted of a Lionel 6110 steam engine and tender, that Baby Ruth car, a gondola and a caboose. I played with that set for hundreds of hours and my family added to it with Lionel accessories. I still have the set. If it was considered a starter set to get kids interested in trains, it WORKED!
John
This is pretty close
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jushavnfun:
That's very close to what I had. An engine, a tender and three inexpensive cars and I was hooked! (Then came the 394 Beacon, the barrel loader, the trolley car, the milk car, some Plasticville, a Lionel 1033, and on and on and on!)
Thanks for that Baby Ruth memory,
John
Wow everyone, there’s a Lot of box cars out there, Don McErlean great lineup of famous billboard box cars, and CAPpilot great looking box car with the american eagle as this is a great time to reflect back in our memories of those that fought and gave their All for our freedom. Yes, we are blessed in so many ways, and our hobby brings us together. Stay safe, stay healthy, pray continually.... Happy Memorial Day Everyone... Happy Railroading
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The Pennsy built over 29,000 X-29 boxcars from the late '20s through the early '30s, and there were many thousands more ARA boxcars used by most railroads that were copies of the X-29. The X-29 was easy to spot due to its short height. By itself, it looked longer than 40' but when next to another boxcar you saw how short it was. Here are some photos of an Atlas X-29.
An X-29 next to a re-built X-26c.
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Well Hokie71 opened the door on Cattle cars so I will add to the mix. The Leonardtown and Southern (Tx Div) is contemplating some new Cattle cars (we ship a lot of cows) and is even going abroad for possible examples to buy...(Management of the RR is CHEAP to the extreme) and has imported a few examples to run on their home road to see how they perform. One of the test evaluations is shown below:
On the left is a Hornby No 1 Cattle Wagon made from '49-'54 and still carrying the pre-nationalization RR name of "LMS" in the car data. The one on the right is a Hornby Type 50 wagon made from '57 to '62 as listed in the catalog but sales continued (IAW Hornby announcements) "until stock was expended" which perhaps is as late as '69. What about that creature in the ski cap??? Oh, that is BESSIE the L&S "Test Cow" and a member of managements evaluation team.
Happy BXCr Sun everyone.
Don
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My Pennsy themed layout's time frame is late 1949 (with a few exceptions). So I'm always looking for items you would have seen at that time. The Pennsy started its Less Than Carload (LCL) "Merchandise Service" in 1947 and it lasted until the late 1950s when it lost out to trucks. The MS fleet had three paint schemes, the first from 1947 to 1950. This first paint scheme is the only one I have on my layout since the others are past my time frame.
This scheme was applied to only three classes of boxcars, the 40' X-29b, the 50' X-41b, and the 60' X-40b. MTH has put this scheme on its 40' AAR boxcar and its 50' PS-1 boxcar to simulate the X-29b and X-41b.
While they look good and have the correct paint schemes for the length of car, the car types are not correct but beggars can't be choosers. Hopefully someday someone will do a 60' car.
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@leapinlarry posted:
Larry,
Those shelves look a lot sturdier than mine. Very nice collection. Love the Lionel FT.
Here is a before and after for a Weaver box car- still not sure I did the right thing with leaving that yellow door... ( I saw a NS box car with one and thought I would give it a try.)
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Great Boxcars All!! Leapinlarry, I would like to live near you...anyone who puts solid oak in a dumpster should be MY neighbor - am very jealous shelves look beautiful. My contribution this Sunday is a box car but of the automobile carrier type. Made by Marx from 1957-1959, which is about the correct end point for these type cars on the prototype railroads. By the end of the 1950's, RR's had lost some 90% of the finished automobile transport business to trucks. Open Auto racks, are what recovered the automobile transport business for railroads as it finally gave the RR's a car with more capacity than the typical truck, began to appear in 1960. These displaced the Auto-box car rapidly and the RR's went from some 600 open racks in 1961 to some 15,000 by 1968. In the 1970's the closed auto rack became the dominant form with side panels installed to prevent vandalism. (Note : My data above and below is from "Railroading and the Automobile Industry", Jeff Wilson, Kalmbach Books, Waukesha, Wisconsin, 2019)
This car seemed a little small to me so I decided to check the measurements against prototype data using 1/4" to the foot. It is small in length. Many automobile cars (in fact 25,502 in 1947) were 40 foot cars, but the Marx car above scales out to about 33 ft so it is a bit too short. The height inside is also too low, the average interior height of a prototype car would have been about 10 to 10 1/2 ft and this car measures about 9 ft. Many of these cars had an internal rack to increase capacity from 2 to 4 cars which came into use from the 1930's on and which required a 12' door and 10' interior height as a minimum. The door opening on the Marx car is very close to scale being about 14 ft wide with both doors open (which had become standard by the 1940's) and to the left of center as were most of the prototype cars. So Mr. Marx got close but made compromises to deal with his primary customer, someone running small tight radius layouts. Which, by the way, is why this car and other 40 footers run really well on the Leonardtown and Savannah. Thank you Mr. Marx!!
By the way, if you are interested in the RR's connection with the Automobile Industry and New Auto delivery and Parts traffic I recommend the Kalmbach book, it is relatively inexpensive ($19.95), soft cover in magazine size and full of pictures and interesting facts.
Happy Sunday everyone
Don
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More cars of the box kind, although reffers.
This is the MTH prototype ( first car made ) Ellicott & Sons Ice Cream Reffer. Since Ellicott City is home of the first railroad terminus in the US, and the county seat of the county of which I live, I had to have this car.
Got of love this Reffer with a glass lined tank.
Of course some beer, after all it's summer ... well almost!
So there you have it Ice Cream, Milk, and Beer ... not to be consumed at the same sitting. ;-)
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Great pics and info everyone, thanks for contributing to this post, love ya!!!
Hi All,
I'll get the first start on this weekend's Box Car Sunday (unless someone else beats me to it) with a scratch-built box car project I did almost 40 () years ago. Dang, where'd all that time go?!?!?!
After winning an HO scale Walthers craftsman gondola kit as a door prize at a train show and building it, I was impressed with the construction details and how easy it actually was to build. I was partial to old time freight cars back in those days anyway, and had a small collection of MDC/Roundhouse HO scale old-timer cars in my stable. If memory serves, I had seen some O-scale trucks and other detail parts for relatively little cost at my local hobby shop, and it occurred to me, why not try my hand at scratch-building some old time freight equipment, in O-scale? The perfect, low cost hobby for a young college-age student on summer break with lots of time on his hands and no job or money!
I started out by taking my favorite box car at the time, an HO scale MDC/Roundhouse 36' Truss Rod Single-Sheathed Box Car, measuring it up, and then making up my own working drawings in 1/48 O-scale in order to build it. I believe the only pre-manufactured parts I purchased were the trucks, a brake wheel, a brake cylinder, Kadee O-scale couplers, some HO scale brass rail stantions (probably closer to O-scale, if the truth is known), and a short length of tiny chain used in the brake rigging. Everything else was bass board sheets and shapes, Strathmore board, brass wire, sheets, channels, tubing, and angles, steel staples for foot stirrups, and a few plastic shapes. I made up jigs for bending the brass wire grab rungs and any other bent wire pieces for the model. I hand-scribed all the bass wood sheathing (both sides of each sheet!) to represent the board planking.
But enough yacking, let's look at some pics...................................
Here's a side view of the car (obviously). I painted it with Floquil box car red, if memory serves, some sort of brownish or burnt umber interior, and a grimy black underside. I never did letter or decal it. I've always been planning to, just never got around to it. One of these days, maybe? Talk about procrastination!
The side doors and end door open on my model. They slide in brass channels.
The interior is fully detailed, as you can partially see here and in a few other photos.
Some more detail on the non-brake end. The "steel plate" corner braces on the sides/ends are made from Strathmore board, with tiny little squares of brass sheet glued on to represent square-headed bolts.
Here you can see the end door on the brake end. For several years afterwards, I had no idea what it would have been used for on the prototype. But, the MDC/Roundhouse car evidently had one on it, so my O-scale rendition had to have it, too. Also a good shot of the grab rungs and the wire staple stirrup.
Here's another angle looking down at the top.
And a shot of the bottom. I don't remember who made the trucks, they're plastic archbar trucks and sprung. Possibly Athearn? Like I say don't remember, and don't even know if they're still available today.
Lastly, an upside down view of the non-brake end. Phewww! Quite the project, ehhh?
I even scratch-built the display track. I sawed my own ties out of 1 x 4 pine on my dad's radial arm saw (I still have that saw today and use it on occasion). I glued the ties to a 1 x 4 board and stained or painted them. Then I stripped the rails from a piece of Atlas HO scale code 100 flex track and hand-spiked them down to the ties (every tie). Lastly I ballasted the track with plain old kitty litter, which looked pretty good to my eye.
Well, that's what I used to do when I was young, broke, and stupid. Now that I'm old, broke and stupid, I've been gravitating more and more to 3-rail O-gauge - heck with that 2-rail stuff!
Hope you enjoy.
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Guys what great cars. MIxed Freight - great car and a really good back story, thanks. BillT - neat cars, had never heard of the GN "circus" cars before,RPMcobra - I also love the "Ma and Pa" just got an Atlas box from Trainworld and have not even opened it yet, so good things to come. Great pictures everyone, amazing the diversity of box cars our RR had at one time.
Here is my contribution today: Not quite a box car but a Milk Car with a streamlined cover. These were reasonably common during the peak years of RR milk traffic in the 30's (Kalambach has a neat little book on the Milk industry and RR's with lots of pictures) . This one is from Lionel and it is labeled Burlington Northern which is a relatively new RR created by merger, so I am not sure that there exists a prototype or not. I just liked the shape and decoration and it fits the tight curves of my layout.
Happy BoxCar Sunday everyone.
Don
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Good morning everyone.
Here is my Lionel X31a boxcar. Unfortunately, Lionel put a little too dark paint on this one.
The bigger issue for me are the markings on the car.
The RPKD date (1-8-49) is before the build date (6-56). Plus the car has the circle keystone which was no longer used after 1952.
The X31a boxcars were built between 1934 and 1936, so I'm guessing the 5 in 6-56 was in error. If you can change the 5 to 3, then everything is correct.
The model boxcar Lionel used is also not correct for the X31. As I have said before, beggars can't be choosers.
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Some boxcar flicks.
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How about some action? Got Milk?
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Wow, there’s lots of beautiful and nicely weathered and also unique box cars pictured here recently on this box car sunday forum thread. This car I’m showing is an automobile box car made by MTH, purchased years ago simply a shelf queen that’s supposedly scale in length. I thank MTH for making so many different variations of rolling stock. Hope everyone is having a great weekend, staying safe, staying healthy, continually praying. Happy Railroading
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Thanks Larry and Patrick for all your great contributions every week. Good to see dedicated modelers enjoying their stuff.
Larry - Maybe an Alaska R.R. trip in 2021?
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I ran across this K-Line REA boxcar in patriotic colors while going through my Red-White-Blue fleet. I bought it many years ago because there were several boxcar models in this scheme, both in N and O, so I thought it was based on a real prototype.
For fun I did some research to find a photo of a prototype car. Well, there aren’t any. I check several REA related web sites and my two REA related books* and nothing, so I’m assuming this car did not exist. Oh well, it is a good looking car, nicely detailed, and goes well with the rest of my RWB cars.
*In my defense, I bought the car before the books.
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Well, here we are again for another Box Car Sunday. My contribution today is a bit of a potpourri of miscellaneous box cars.
First is a Hornby, Saxa Salt type 50 "box car" although you might almost consider it a hopper or even a tank car.
Next is a Danish Refrigerator Car or Kole Vogon I don't know much about this one, it was a flea market find when I was actually in Denmark on business a number of years ago.
Then we have the Marx, GAEX "scale" box car from the 1950's . This version on "high" trucks to match up with the #21 Marx lithographed Santa Fe F-3 locomotive.
Finally a couple of classic 6464 Lionel's from the post war era. Pulled by my Air Force AMT Beep!
Happy Box Car Sunday everyone...have a good week
Don
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For this fine Sunday ... " The "cabbox" car. A combination boxcar/cabbose. Used by MOW crews and branch line service. Here are a couple by MTH ( RailKing) that I weathered. Unfortunately I was not able to front light this photo session, so the scenes in these photos turned out to be darker thus not highlighting the cars well.
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Running the Espee today shipment of fruit and vegetables to Texas
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I purchased a Susie-Q boxcar some years back thinking it was around in the 1940s. The reason I thought this car was in use then was it was on a friend's layout who strictly modeled post WWII. I was very disappointed to learn this was an early 1960s paint scheme.
There were 25 boxcars painted this way and it looks like some lasted into the '80s. There is GW 8-64 stenciled on the side which I think means the car was painted at the Edgewater, NJ yards on the NYS&W in 1964.
There is an old wood boxcar on display at a museum that has this paint scheme, but that was painted after it was put on display.
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@CAPPilot posted:I purchased a Susie-Q boxcar some years back thinking it was around in the 1940s. The reason I thought this car was in use then was it was on a friend's layout who strictly modeled post WWII. I was very disappointed to learn this was an early 1960s paint scheme.
There were 25 boxcars painted this way and it looks like some lasted into the '80s. There is GW 8-64 stenciled on the side which I think means the car was painted at the Edgewater, NJ yards on the NYS&W in 1964.
There is an old wood boxcar on display at a museum that has this paint scheme, but that was painted after it was put on display.
Hi Ron, now I do not feel so bad about selling my MTH version off a couple years ago.
I originally bought it because of the word "Susquehanna." Back in the mid-late 70's worked for a company that produced component supports for the nuclear power industry. In fact as Quality Supervisor had to spend time in Berwick, Pa. at the "Susquehanna Steam Electric Station" (nuclear plant) construction site investigating a complaint.
Ron
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All beer reffers.
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@trumptrain posted:All beer reffers.
Pat did you buy into the pre-orders Atlas Natty Boh Reffer's 🙂
@PRRronbh posted:I originally bought it because of the word "Susquehanna." Back in the mid-late 70's worked for a company that produced component supports for the nuclear power industry. In fact as Quality Supervisor had to spend time in Berwick, Pa. at the "Susquehanna Steam Electric Station" (nuclear plant) construction site investigating a complaint.
Ron,
My Susie-Q is now part of the trains I run at National Capital Trackers shows. Mine is an Atlas model.
I visited my cousin at his work place, the Rancho Seco Nuclear Generating Station. He spent his entire long career there monitoring its shutdown. I don't think there are any rail cars the have RSNGS on them, but that would be fun.
@rpmcobra posted:Pat did you buy into the pre-orders Atlas Natty Boh Reffer's 🙂
I pre ordered one Natty Bo reffer from Mr. Muffin. Looking forward to receiving it, whenever that time comes.
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Happy Box Car Sunday everyone...well like usual, i have something a little bit off of theme. How about a refrigerator car instead of a box car? This one from Union Pacific - Overland Route is by Hafner. Its part of his "streamlined" series of freights, always 4 wheel and pulled by a clockwork loco. In the case of this guy a black and silver Hafner 1010 loco made sometime between 1938 and 1951 when Hafner was acquired by Wyandotte toys. Mr. Hafner who was one of the original founders of the American Flyer Company left their in 1914. He never made electric trains only clockwork, believing electric trains were too expensive to be toys. He died in the 1920's but his son lead the company until its end in the early 50's.
Anyway here is his Overland Refrigerator Car
Happy BC Sunday everyone!
Don
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Always interesting Sunday posts on BC Sunday!
I don't think Ralphie has made the thread yet, Let's fast forward to what we hope will be a "normal" time...the Christmas season and think of mulled wine and egg nog:
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CAPPilot, I like the Susquehanna Box cars, but not for the years of service, but for the name, Suzie Q, my wife’s name is actually Sueann, but I call her Suzie Q for fun. I like Lionels sound box cars and these are recent purchases. Box car sunday is a popular thread, so here’s some of my favorites. Hope everyone has had a great weekend. Happy Railroading
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In another topic the UP BX-50-25 express boxcar was brought up as something Lionel should make. I have the Weaver version so I thought I would show it for today’s Boxcar Sunday.
100 of these 41’ boxcars were built between 1939 and 1941, painted solid gray, and were originally classified as B-50-25. In 1946 these cars received the two-tone gray paint scheme seen here and changed to class BX-50-25. The two-tone scheme lasted until 1952 so this Weaver car fits perfectly into the late 40’s era of my layout.
This is not a tall car, similar to the Pennsy’s X-29 boxcar. Because of its low height it looks longer than 41’. Maybe someday I can find the correct Symington-Gould High Speed Trucks for it.
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Good morning everyone, it is sunny and HOT / HUMID ! here in coastal Ga. Bill T- great start and a very handsome car not commonly seen on model RR. Justhavnfun and CAPPilot great cars, I love the older 40 ' cars as that is about all my short radius lay out can handle. For today, I have two pictures. One on theme and one just for fun.
To start on theme, here is a Marx "deluxe" box car from the Rock Island. It is of the classic 40' size and has sliding doors and 8-wheel trucks hence the deluxe term. Made between '52-'59. Pulled by the Rock Island, # 799 GE 70-ton Switcher also made by Marx between '59-'65
Now just for fun. Blanco the Cat, assistant chief engineer on the Leonardtown and Savannah,heard we were going to discuss "Box" cars and felt he had to get in on the action. He used his discretionary budget to acquire a box car of his own to show management his special technical abilities (like getting in the box) !
Happy BCSun everyone
Don
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I got this nice WM 50 ' from an on line auction that had 4 MTH Premier items in one lot. I was bidding on 1 caboose which I won and was really surprised at how nice all 4 items were. I was going to turn around the other 3 items but decided to keep all.
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Don Winslow, Wow, we all have Senior moments, you are excused, beautiful red,white, and blue car.... RSJB18 has one to, I just posted one last sunday, they are Beautiful. Arnold D., beautiful older car, it’s an action car, a great car that brings back fond memories of Yesteryear, and Jushavnfun also knows that’s a fun to run car. Wow, I think I’ve found a true collectors car, MTH, I joined the club years ago... Also you will see a picture of a hand crafted O Scale Circus car belonging to a friend of mine, and a favorite of mine, a Burlington Route refrigerator box car. Don McErlean, great nostalgic box cars, a Beautiful cat... I know it’s hot in Georgia, it’s hot here in middle Tennessee. Johan, your a master at rolling stock weathering, awesome job.... Everyone, stay safe, stay healthy, Pray Continually. Happy Railroading
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Happy BCSun everyone...great pictures for today. Thanks to everyone for posting. Today I have some pictures of a real veteran. This guy is over 100 years old, standard gauge, and represents what the hobby was like at the beginning of the 20th century. It is a Lionel #114 box car, introduced in 1912 as part of the so called "series 100" freights. Remember in those days 0 gauge didn't even exist and standard only replaced 2 7/8 " gauge in 1906. As you will see in the pictures this fellow is embossed "LIONEL MFG CO" on its underside which means it pre-dates the change to Lionel Corp in 1918, So this guy was manufactured some time between 1912 -1917. It is currently red but I think this is some young man's home paint job (or his Dad's) because they wanted a "red" boxcar. The underside shows it was originally an yellow-orange body and likely rubber stamped in black "CM & ST P 54087" on the sides, although that is long gone. So here is this "old man"
Here is the side view, sliding doors via a second piece of sheet metal on the inside with a door hole in it.
Late 100 series trucks, originally had 2 brake wheels but none at this time.
Underside, showing original coloring and the embossing "LIONEL MFG. CO N.Y." which dates the car to 1917 or earlier.
Well happy box car Sunday everyone.
Don
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Here is another Weaver 40' boxcar I bought thinking is was based on a real car. K-line did a similar 40' boxcar.
After searching for this car a couple of times, I have accepted the fact it did not exist. I did find a similar Reading "Share in Freedom" with eagle scheme on a 50' boxcar, but those cars were more brown than the very green on the Weaver car. I also learned that the eagle was put on only four of the 50' "Share in Freedom" boxcars, numbers 19805-19808, so the number on the Weaver car is correct. As far as I can find, the eagle on these four boxcars would give them the only real* Bicentennial paint scheme of the Reading.
*There are cabooses in this paint scheme, but could not find a photo of a prototype for those either.
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Hi all,
Here's an InterMountain Railway Co. O-scale kit I picked up at a hobby shop a few years ago. Lettered for Bruce Chubb's Sunset Railway and Navigation Co., a large HO-scale railroad that got a fair amount of press back in the 70's and 80's, if memory serves. Not sure why InterMountain produced an O-scale kit to honor an HO-scale model railroad, but oh well........................
I still need to match/mix up some paint for the grab rails and stirrups. Glad I finally got it built, I had been putting it off for quite some time while pondering what to do with all those fragile plastic parts.
I "O-gauged" the kit by omitting the fragile plastic under-frame brake and rigging piping, forming grab handles and stirrups out of steel wire and staples to replace the delicate molded plastic pieces, and adding a set of MTH O-gauge trucks from my parts box. Much more durable that way.
While not a prototype road name, it's at least plausible, and for O-gauge, that's okay with me.
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Randy Harrison. That “coke” train switcher set was the first toy train set I bought for my eldest son in ‘75 or ‘’76 I think. It was my re-entry into toy trains after some 20 years. He never really kept up his interest although he loved the set at the time and I never stopped 😜
it was great to see that colorful set again.
Don
Our new kitchen island, the top is recycled wood that came from the FLOOR OF A BOXCAR !
Circa 1960s. Even the original hardware was left intact and refinished by Pacifico Reclaimed Wood in Lancaster, NY.
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@Mixed Freight posted:Hi all,
Here's an InterMountain Railway Co. O-scale kit I picked up at a hobby shop a few years ago. Lettered for Bruce Chubb's Sunset Railway and Navigation Co., a large HO-scale railroad that got a fair amount of press back in the 70's and 80's, if memory serves. Not sure why InterMountain produced an O-scale kit to honor an HO-scale model railroad, but oh well........................
This was part of the "Living Legend" series commissioned by the National Model Railroad Association. Cars were available to NMRA members in G, O, S, HO and N.
Rusty
@scale rail posted:
Scale Rail, here is a complete consist of the various Yakima Valley reefers manufactured by KMT Trains.
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That's a beautiful area up there...as is all of the Great Northwest.
Mark in Oregon
Hi BCSun Folks : Beautiful cars @scale rail the Yakima Apples livery is new to me and I had not seen it before. My layout is rather narrow and so I am pretty much limited to the old 40 ft (6464 series) cars for clearance, but I can run the Marx 3/16 "scale" cars. So here is the GAEX box car from the 1950's and it came in a set with a #21 lithographed Santa Fe warbonnet F-3. Its all metal, lithographed and has sliding doors and the "automatic" pickle fork couplers and the high trucks that allowed it to couple up to the #21.
Happy BCSun everyone
Don
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Where does time go, I meant to post these pictures on sunday, but better late than never. There’s a lot of nice and unique box cars pictured above, all beautiful. I wish everyone a great week, fun with your trains, and staying safe, staying healthy, and praying continually. Happy Railroading everyone.
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Leapinlarry: WOW those are some L-o-n-g boxcars! If I put all those on my main line the engine would be just behind the last one! My contribution this Sunday is far more mundane...my Marx NYC switcher is moving a boxcar full of those "State of Maine" products (likely potatoes) to start on its journey to the big city.
Happy BxCarSun everyone. Hope you all have a happy and healthy week
Don
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Trumptrain, very interesting pictures of men at work unloading great merchandise from beautiful box cars on your amazing layout, so cool...
Don McErlean, Yes, those box cars are long and fun to run, and your Marx switcher looks equally fun to run and the red/white/blue box car is one of my favorite paint schemes,
Rpmcobra, beautiful Western Maryland locomotive and freight consist, wow..
Bill T, it’s time for a cold one, beautiful box car, and for Your pleasure, check out my GM&O box car and a couple of state cars, as I live on the border of Tennessee and Kentucky....
Everyone, have a safe, fun Sunday, stay safe, stay healthy, Pray Continually. Happy Railroading
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Box cars have become a show on the rails of America, and other countries, with beautiful ads, roadname loyalty, many are colorful and fun to view as they roll down the track. Even those with a bit of graffiti. Near my home in Clarksville, Tennessee, the RJ Corman is the main railroad that delivers to our many factories. It’s a fun to watch brand. Stay safe, stay healthy, pray continually. Have a great sunday, Happy Railroading...
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These gentlemen appear to be having a dispute regarding the relative merits of American Flier vs. Lionel...
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My grandchildren love the ice house action and I kinda like it myself.
I gotta say the photography and authentic settings in these forums posted by many
members amazes me
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Really great pictures everyone...I have to admit, Don Winslow a sentimental attachment to the "outlaw" car with the ever present gun fight, what fun. My contribution today is a little off the normal and is from a Hafner freight set I recently acquired.
First - not quite a box car, but the Hafner cattle car. This was made both with and without the slats opened. The slats open version is also a bit larger than the lithographed only version. However, it is really hard to get the cows in, as the door does not open
The second car is also not quite a box...it is an automobile car from the time period before the prevalence of racks on flat cars. At least in this case, the door opens so we can get cars inside although the single door means they better be small!
Happy BxCarSun everyone ...Have a great week
Don
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Great pics and info everyone.
Here's some of the SANTA FE maintained cars from Lionel.
Great sounds from the kitchen car!!!
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Sears was always a big part of my life! Christmas catalogs, First bike, tools, auto equipment, kitchen appliances and even a new 2 car garage. Happy Sunday everyone.
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franktrain: I fully agree, SEARS was the place we got nearly everything as I was growing up and Craftsman tools remains my "go to" brand for quality. Hard to believe that such an icon is nearing bankruptcy. So from an earlier era, here is my Lionel SEARS Centennial Boxcar. This was a special commemorative car made by Lionel in 1986. Hard to believe that was now 34 years ago!
Happy BxCrSun everyone!
Don
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This arrived Thursday, 8/6, photo taken for my growing inventory records:
The last Premier MTHRRC car, as far as I know..
---PCJ
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While the vast majority of my boxcars are Pennsylvania Railroad designs, I do have a few non-Pennsy cars. Here are a few of them.
The UP car is Weaver, the others are Atlas.
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Hello B.C.Sun fans...wife and I are back home in Tx after summer away with family (and away from Covid!) so I am opening up the various "e-bay" finds that I ordered over the summer and were delivered to Tx so its been sort of like "Christmas" over the last few days. This entry today is not all that rare although it was missing from my collection. It is the Marx 34178 Great Northern boxcar (non-deluxe version) with the dark green body and type G trucks. This was made in 1961with both type G and F (passenger car) trucks. They also made a deluxe version as well (sliding door) but it was brown and only had type F trucks. The color stayed the same for many years but changed to a much lighter green in 1975.
Hope you have a great upcoming week!
Don
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Ron. Those are some nice pics of your Boxcars Thanks for sharing them
Patrick great pics
Paul. Like that Cotton Belt very much what a beautiful car
Don. Glad you made it back ok and a nice little car there
Larry My favorite is the Katy out of your group
Leapinlarry / Lee thanks for your comments. Larry, I see a Marx 176893 NYC "deluxe" box car with type G trucks made it into your post today. Great little car but I bet he feels a little "short" compared to those beautiful scale ones on your layout
Best wishes all
Don
Larry: From my reference on Marx sets what you have is set # 41882 (A). Note: the (B) set was same set but with SF diesels.
Locomotive: NH E7 AB units. These were made between 1960 and 1974 there also was a "Dummy A"unit made but it didn't come in this set. Large "N" over "H" and "2002" on sides likely identifies set being made in later part of that period but with Marx you can never be certain.
Auto carrier: 51100, Southern, four automobiles (note for Marx "automobiles" includes panel trucks)
Boxcar : 176893 NYC Green
Flatcar: 5545 CB&Q, maroon two white NYC trailers
Caboose: C-635 NH black, orange and white
Transformer: 50 watt
Freight cars have plastic automatic couplers (so called "pickle forks") and type G trucks.
You got a fine gift Larry, the E-7's are very prototypical and run really well and the freight cars were all Marx "deluxe" line , 8 wheel plastic freights (the top of the line).
Best of luck finding the missing trailer, unlike the auto's in the auto rack I don't know of anyone who makes reproductions. The automobiles you have all look like standard original Marx loads. The cars actually used on the auto rack car were provided by Marx at random from a basic selection that included 1950 Ford, Chevrolet, and Studebaker cars and panel trucks of various colors.
Don
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Gandydancer 1950, Wow, Beautiful Box cars and super nice layout, brings back fond memories of yesteryear. Thank You. Your layout is so cool. Bar GP7 63, your weathered cars look real, as does your layout. You are a master at scenery and weathering snd simply model railroading. Wow. Happy Railroading Everyone.
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@leapinlarry posted:Gandydancer 1950, Wow, Beautiful Box cars and super nice layout, brings back fond memories of yesteryear. Thank You. Your layout is so cool. Bar GP7 63, your weathered cars look real, as does your layout. You are a master at scenery and weathering snd simply model railroading. Wow. Happy Railroading Everyone.
leapinlarry. Thank you Sir. I am glad you like it.
Johan
@leapinlarry posted:Gandydancer 1950, Wow, Beautiful Box cars and super nice layout, brings back fond memories of yesteryear. Thank You. Your layout is so cool. Bar GP7 63, your weathered cars look real, as does your layout. You are a master at scenery and weathering snd simply model railroading. Wow. Happy Railroading Everyone.
Thank you leapinlarry. I have all the 64
64's but it took one heck of a long time to collect!
Bill. That’s a nice Boxcar there’s a Menards about 15min from me guess I’m going have to get one
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The top one is correct, the bottom one was coated with varnish; a common practice many years ago. An employee of the Heatbath Corporation was an O scaler and had these sides made up and would send a set out to anyone who asked and sent him an S. A. S. E. At least two numbers were available. A friend sent me a single unused side to scan; I would like to apply the artwork to a modern car such as a Weaver Railbox or a center-flow.
Edit: The Heatbath Corp. was still in existence until it was bought up a few years ago.
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The CV car, by MTH, came from the Cumberland Valley Model RR Club. I also have the gondola and flat bed cars.
The Gettysburg cars, by Weaver, were from Tommy Gilbert's.
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Well BXCRSun folks here is my story for today. Its incredibly busy at the Savannah Port Yard today, not sure why Sunday usually slow, but today everyone wants their car loaded or unloaded, so the freight house is on OT (yea! ). The NYC switcher to the left has just pushed the B&M Boxcar to about the extent of track, can't get close to the freight house so the REA truck is up at yard end manually pushing the boxes from the truck into the car to get then forward fast. Switcher is a Marx GE 70 Ton # 588 in NYC black / white while the B&M box car is a Marx "deluxe" car from the 1950's (it was available '52, '55, & '57). The Road Switcher on the adjacent track is waiting to hook up to the train ASAP to clear out some space...BUSY DAY!
Happy BXCRSun everyone...have a happy and healthy week.
Don
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Thanks Larry...I can see why you like the Atlas cars, I have a few but for the most part they are too long to run on my railroad so I have to hunt down the short ones. This is one reason I like running the Marx Cars or Lionel 6464's they are short enough to go around my sharp curves. thanks also for your good luck comments and remarks on teaching.
Don
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Box cars for this fine Sunday. I the third photo I have a cattle car ... I guess a cattle car can be considered as a slated/vented boxcar?