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Paul,

  I thought you would want to model all aspects of these cars? Maybe you can have some Arttista figures at the platform holding their noses?

Tom

Oh, Tom… as the respected author of a wonderful book  on Metro North, you, of all people, must be aware of the malevolent malodorous MN bathroom cars - why would you wish that on anyone, even an Arttista commuter???

Similar to the MTH Premier Central Vermont high cube boxcars purchased last month, I had been on the lookout for a long time for the MTH Premier Rutland coke hoppers. They came out in 2 sets of 4 in 2002 and this was the 1st time I had seen any for sale. The set I purchased has 3 of the 4 hoppers from set 20-90072. Sharp looking and will go well with my other Vermont themed rolling stock. Unlike the Central Vermont boxcars where I paid a premium, these were surprisingly reasonable and well below the current pricing for MTH Premier coke cars. Nice offset to get me back within range of my new acquisitions budget!

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@Mooner posted:

Similar to the MTH Premier Central Vermont high cube boxcars purchased last month, I had been on the lookout for a long time for the MTH Premier Rutland coke hoppers. They came out in 2 sets of 4 in 2002 and this was the 1st time I had seen any for sale. The set I purchased has 3 of the 4 hoppers from set 20-90072. Sharp looking and will go well with my other Vermont themed rolling stock. Unlike the Central Vermont boxcars where I paid a premium, these were surprisingly reasonable and well below the current pricing for MTH Premier coke cars. Nice offset to get me back within range of my new acquisitions budget!



Very nice, I also bid on these but didn't really need them. They were just too good looking not to throw a bid at.

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Thank you @RSJB18 Bob, so very much for giving this Lionel Legacy LIRR, even with whistle Steam, a great new home, and looking at the pictures it arrived at your station in great shape. I will have to confess, Bob has a great collection of smaller diesel switchers and that has rubbed off on me, now I have 5 small Lionel legacy switchers, and the SW1200 Sante Fe is from my friend Charles collection. Therefore I had to offer this particular smaller steamer to Bob, being that he collects LIRR. Here are some of my recent purchases. Happy Railroading Everyone IMG_1133IMG_1124IMG_1129IMG_1125IMG_1131IMG_0933IMG_0341IMG_0350IMG_0340IMG_0343IMG_0342IMG_1137IMG_1138IMG_1139

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@RSJB18 posted:

This one's not my fault......I swear......

I have to thank @leapinlarry for being a bad influence. Actually this was hard to say no to when coupled with the circumstances, I'm more than happy to help him out.

Lionel Legacy 4-4-2 E6s Atlantic - LIRR

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Bob

May you have better luck with that “not my fault” line than I do, Bob.

Beautiful engine (will that run on your O-31 curves???). And Larry ISN’T a bad influence… he is a prince among 3 railers

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@Apples55 posted:

May you have better luck with that “not my fault” line than I do, Bob.

Beautiful engine (will that run on your O-31 curves???). And Larry ISN’T a bad influence… he is a prince among 3 railers

Larry is a bad influence in a good way.

The engine is rated for 031 so it should be ok. The pilots and cab roofs are always the troublemakers..😎😎

@leapinlarry posted:

Thank you @RSJB18 Bob, so very much for giving this Lionel Legacy LIRR, even with whistle Steam, a great new home, and looking at the pictures it arrived at your station in great shape. I will have to confess, Bob has a great collection of smaller diesel switchers and that has rubbed off on me, now I have 5 small Lionel legacy switchers, and the SW1200 Sante Fe is from my friend Charles collection. Therefore I had to offer this particular smaller steamer to Bob, being that he collects LIRR. Here are some of my recent purchases. Happy Railroading Everyone IMG_1133IMG_1124IMG_1129IMG_1125IMG_1131IMG_0933IMG_0341IMG_0350IMG_0340IMG_0343IMG_0342IMG_1137IMG_1138IMG_1139

If you have to go Diesel It has to be Geep 30's for freight.  But you need a PA/PB set for passenger

@RSJB18 posted:

Larry is a bad influence in a good way.

The engine is rated for 031 so it should be ok. The pilots and cab roofs are always the troublemakers..😎😎

Don't I know it.  I trying to situate the inner loop on my 4x8,  I wanted to offset it just a bit so I could squeeze a K-Line station platform in between tracks on one side.  To check clearance I used a K-Line Gunderson Husky-Stack on the outer loop and a RK Y6b on the inner.  Even though I doubt I would ever run the Y6b on the inner loop I figured it would have the grates front overhang.  I was thrilled when that overhang cleared the well car but that lasted only briefly as like you said the cab did make contact with the upper container on the stack. 

Amazing how much stuff was squirreled away in MTH's warehouse . Yet another auction from their archives surfaced May 8 and I was there with a keen interest in prototypes and samples: As with my previous entries in this series, descriptions lie below their respective photos:

ruggedrails gondola eng-sample

First up is this engineering sample of the Rugged Rails gondola. Two or three of these appeared in the auction. I figured I'd have the fewest competing bids if I picked the third one. The second one sold for a few dollars less than this one . Anyway, the handwritten tag indicates this is the first engineering sample, which was rejected. For what, I don't know but this happened Sept 1, 2000.

ruggedrails 3bayhopper eng-sample

Next up is this engineering sample of the Rugged Rails hopper, noteworthy for being essentially a three-bay version of Lionel's famous "quad hopper". MTH's example is a "traditional-sized" version of a Pennsylvania RR class H30 hopper. Weaver Models did a scale version in their Ultra Line. For some reason, my camera (Canon Powershot SX100IS) wouldn't focus on the handwritten tag, attached to the car or not (unlike the other examples), but it read:

"RR Covered Hopper/ 1st Engineering sample/ Rec 9/18/00 / Approved w/corrections / See fax 9/18/00 T"

Interestingly enough, Lionel's 'quad' hopper has a little-known prototype. I've seen a photo on this very forum, but I can't find it right now (google image searches turn up the Lionel model or the five-bay H32 prototype).

ruggedrails stockcar eng-sample

Rugged Rails livestock car. Pretty sure this one is also an engineering sample, but the lot it was included in (along with a premier stock car, a coalporter hopper and woodside caboose) did not include any tags to that effect, This one sure seems to be an early version since one of the sliding doors keeps falling off its track (as shown in the auction photo ), so maybe the tolerances are a tad off. I'll have to get out the digital calipers next time I have this one out.

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Rugged Rails boxcar "first" engineering sample, which was approved mid-Sept 2000 according to the tag. This car, along with the other RR cars above, had a number of examples appearing in the auction as single-car lots (a single RR stock car escalated past what I was willing to pay, so I 'settled' on the example pictured above included in a lot with three larger cars). This one looks smaller than a 6464-style boxcar, but it matches the other Rugged Rails cars sizewise (other than the woodside caboose). Measurements will be forthcoming when I re-do my post illustrating the varying size of traditional 6464-style boxcars (Lionel, RailKing, Industrial Rail, K-Line, etc).

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RailKing woodside caboose, possibly an engineering sample. I'm leaning toward "test shot equipped with trucks to make it more sale-able"   . Why? The trucks have no pickup rollers, there's no interior wiring (although the bulb mounts and bulbs are present inside), and the handrails/grab irons are missing, as is the smokestack. Will it join my gaggle of unpainted cabooses? Yes. Will said gaggle of cabeese become part of a larger train of unpainted samples from these warehouse auctions? Sure looks that way . By the way, there's a larger "MT539" sticker on the roof, concealed behind the roofwalk.

premier stockcar undec

Premier 40' livestock car. No tags on this one, but it kinda looks like an engineering sample owing to the modernized trucks with T-bar couplers (though now that I think about it, this car should have solid-bearing trucks). It was part of a lot that included the woodside caboose, coalporter and Rugged Rails stock car.

There were 14 cars in this shipment. I'll save the remaining eight for the next post (all Premier)

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@Dennis Holler, Congratulations on that beautiful train! Your station scene in the background reminds me of an article by Ron Hollander in the January 2021 issue of Train Collectors Quarterly. He described his recreation of an illustration from Lionel's old catalogs. The illustration depicted nine 156 station platforms leading to a 115 station in red and cream, with the tracks running under the station. Hollander built his scene with 11 platforms and a larger 116 station over the tracks. Your scene looks very much like the catalog image and Ron Hollander's recreation of it.

John

Thanks John, Yes, I got the idea from I think the 1940 catalog and it showed what you described.  I basically just filled up the space I had with the two running loops around the edge. On retrospect, I placed the tracks a little too close together for parking 263E locos due to their wide cylinders.  But I'll live with it.

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