Serenska posted:

I have posted variations of this before, but here's the latest version of my forthcoming Postwar layout:

 

 

Some basic facts:

1. This will be on the third floor of our house.  The entry stairs are on the right, that gray box in the middle is a chimney.
2. The light green/black track is the table level.  The navy blue on a teal background is an elevated level.  The Orange Track on the right is another elevated level above the teal level.
3. The passenger station area at the top is a mini-homage to the Lionel Showroom layout with all those 156 passenger stations.
4. I couldn't figure out how to draw circles reliably in RR-Track, but I will be taking out a jigsaw and making most of the table edges curve in concert with the O72 curves just inside.  I'm still inspired by the late TCA President Al Ruocchio's layout with that gorgeous wainscoting and brass rails.  I can only hope to make something half as nice.
5. Some good points about the layout, IMHO, are:
6. • It's a good size at 36x20.  It will be the biggest I will have ever built by a long shot.
   • Since 99% of all derailments occur at a switch, all switches but 1-2 are reachable by hand from a nearby front table edge.  The exceptions are reachable by the backside of the table or a popup.
   • All accessories that have something that needs to be replaced (e.g., 352 Icing Station) can be operated/reloaded from a nearby table edge.
   • Not shown is a below-table-level subway that will be at eye-level to young children through the sides of the table.
7. I made the decision a while ago to have "one of each" of the Lionel postwar accessories on the layout. 
   
   "One of each" excludes obvious dupes where the accessories pretty much do the same thing (e.g., 38/138 water tower, 282/182 gantry crane, etc.).  I also excluded most of the stupid military and space items (e.g., the cardboard submarine base).  I had a pretty good start in my boyhood collection, so picking up the accessories I didn't have has been pretty easy and enjoyable.
8. To be fair, I intentionally omitted the following from my "one of each" list:
9. • 97 coal elevator (I think the 397 and 497 are both better)
   • The 375 turntable (which I think is kind of plastic-y looking ... plus it doesn't work)
   • 460 Piggyback unloader (I'm tempted on this one, but it's relatively large for something with such minimal play value)
   • Many of the passenger stations and small bridges (these just don't move me)
   • Any of the stupid 60's accessories involving shooting things

It has proven to be a challenge to find time to work on it, but I'm ever hopeful.  It will be nice to retire some day and really make some progress...

 

Steven J. Serenska

Love it, Steve !!  Did you ever get all the track laid yet?

My first!

Trying to learn Scarm.

Running mostly prewar O and small standard gauge trains.

The outside loop will be 5 rail to run O and standard gauge.

The next loop will not be raise but will be on the same plane as the 5 rail track.

There will be a mountain on one end with doors on the back of the mountain to open clean and fix anything that might of fallen off.

There will be the figure 8 with the switches on a upper level. With the switches I can alter the direction of the train. I may add a small tunnel above the first level tunnels and may support the other end of the figure 8 with some type if bridge or pier. This will be a little bigger than a 4 X 8.

I m in the process of ordering the extra standard gauge rails/clip/insulators to make the 5-rail.

This will be a fun layout with a lot of accessories (I know I have too much now).

This is pretty close to what was built.  11 x 34

As for our large modular layout.....I don't have a formal rrtrack plan......this is the last overhead taken, November 2016.....we're 6' longer now.

You sort of get the idea....

Peter

The track plan of a mad man:

Mine, LOL, Arnold

This is the layout for RC3R's new 12x15 layout. Decided it isn't "small", "L" was not well received. We are contemplating selling naming rights for this layout for a modest monetary donation....

It is 100% as-shown..

This is my trackplan. The layout fills my train room. It's 10'9" x 20'4". The oval in the middle leg of the E is elevated and uses O31 curves. The track underneath it is in a tunnel. The lower mainline uses O36 curves and switches.

Here is mine.  Just got done placing the track on the cork yesterday.  Once I get the wire I need, then I can screw it down.

I did move the 2 stall shed forward more so I could park locomotives outside of it on both tracks.  Here is a photo I took yesterday after I put some of the buildings about where they'd go.

I hope to have all the wiring for the track done before the end of the year.  And then hopefully scenery all done by end of next year.

big train posted:

 

I've always liked this plan Rich.  I've got a copy of an earlier version around here somewhere that I saved many years ago.  Probably from the old Atlas forum. Remember this?

Yeah, this is an earlier version of the plan. I've added 120" diameter curves and adjusted some industries, but its pretty much the same plan.

Here's a couple progress shots:

1. A fish-eye lens view from the SE corner.



2. This is a test of the 5.5% grade coming up from staging yard #2 (Battle Creek & East)  
Two locomotives can comfortably pull 20 cars (the third loco is a dummy)

3. A view of staging yard #2, roughly 18" below the main deck. This is the south wall, grain elevator scene.

4. Checking curve clearance and car capacity of staging yard #2 (Battle Creek & East)

5. The view directly above the previous photo: the S curves along the south wall/

Began work on this layout in 2010 when my wife had the "train room" built above our 3 car garage.  Worked out-of-state too long, too much.  Now retired and still looking for lore time to work on it!  But, keep making some changes in plan as I install roadbed and adjust track plans.  Always moving forward, just not always in full steam...…..   Oh yeah, the layout base is 27 inches off floor and measures 24 ft by 28 ft.

Jesse

I'm currently rebuilding my layout (again), and have recently redesigned (again) it to have O-96 minimum curves on one main line (the other has O-80 minimum curves).  Shown here is stage one, and I have a similar sized area on the other side of the stairs.  It will eventually be a two level layout with one long mainline, one short mainline, a branch line, and a 4-track staging yard.  While the two main lines are loops, the goal is to do operations/switching on it.  I’m still working on stage 2 and stage 3, but it will have a coal mine/power plant combination to move loaded and unloaded coal cars, plus additional industry.  The branch line will go to the upper level and a small town type yard plus some more industries.  The current loop in upper right will be gone with a small town there.

The final layout’s operating plan will have through freights and passenger trains coming out of the staging yard, dropping off/picking up blocks of cars from the yard/station, then going back into staging.  In the yard the blocks will be broken down in the classification tracks for movement out to the industries.  Cars will come in from the industries and put into blocks for pickup by the next through trains.

The plan is to have the entire layout controlled via Lionel’s LCS, but to enhance switching I will also have individual controllers for each switch and uncoupling track along the layout edge.  It would be fun to have other people over to run the trains with me. One or two running the through trains in and out of the staging yard, one or two yard crews, one or two local freight crews, a commuter crew, and a crew working the coal train.  Problem is I’m not sure there are that many interested people in southern Maryland (We are trying to get a group together down here now for operating sessions at an up and running modern era layout but no takers).

Here is the plan I found in an HO book and converted to O gauge with plenty of help from the forum.... 

Love the thread, here is my track plan.

Mike

Here is my Current Revision, Though I think it needs a lot of work to be a well thought out plan.

RD posted:

Here is the plan I found in an HO book and converted to O gauge with plenty of help from the forum.... 

Someone asked about the original.. here it is.

Bob posted:

Here is an older version of my track plan.  There have been several minor changes but the overall flow is the same.  The main room is 28 feet wide and 52 feet long.  Horseshoe Curve at the top of the plan is in a 10x12 space below a breakfast nook.  Pittsburgh and Harrisburg staging is in an adjacent 8x18 foot room at the lower left.  The overall dimensions of visible and non-visible layout are thus 40 by 70 feet. 

 

Click on the plan to see a larger version.

 

 

Your layout is GREAT Bob! I was fortunate enough to see it one time. Hopefully I'll get to come back sometime soon? My wife definitely wants to see it and a couple of guys that run the glacier line would like to see it too. Maybe sometime soon? It is so tough so busy over here with train season starting.   Just not enough hours in a day. Hosting an O & S scale train show layout tour this weekend on Friday night. They are coming over to view the glacier line.

Here is the Glacier Line's track plan. This is the most recently done up-to-date version and is currently correct.

This may be a bit difficult to understand. I am showing three track plans on here. One is the very upper-level which is directly above the lower level and this area is the Stacked staging yards that is hidden from general public viewing. It is easy to tell which one is the main line because the main line simply follows the walls around the room and goes out on to one Island.

The top photo is Shelby.  This is the upper most area--60 inches off floor.  The very bottom photo is Whitefish.  It is 36 inches off floor.

The middle photo is about 230 feet of main which connects these two points

There are hidden staging/storage areas at each end that combined will hold more than 400 cars.

The layout is always on your left as you proceed from the bottom of the stairs and farther into the trainroom. That is, there is one viewing aisle, alongside the right of the layout, which I named "Moon Township."

The first neighborhood you see is the Andreano Village section of the township, featuring 3 mainlines and 1 trolley line, a closed-loop in the nearby Suburban Neighborhood....

Next is the suburban neighborhood.

As you continue to walk further alongside the layout, the next area is the service yard for the trains, which is accompanied by a working man's neighborhood of small businesses to serve a working man's temporary needs while going to or coming from work.

A narrow section, mostly involved with track going to and from somewhere is next.

The 3 mainlines of Level One enter mountains that frame the "V-Valley neighborhood, on three sides, with 1 closed-loop of its own on Level One of the overall layout; 4 closed-loops on its second level, 2 of which frame the valley on 4 sides; a 3rd level closed-loop "dog-bone" is perched in its own neighborhood...

Continuing to walk through the trainroom, we come to the more rural neighborhood's country lane..

...followed by the newest section... ..established in space carved from the 2-car garage, requiring the removal of walls, building walls, raising a floor, and relocating the garage-to-basement door, which also became the location for the bank of ZWs that powers the layout.This part of the viewing aisle allows a left into that newer section, or return to the front of the layout, now on your right side, or you can exit the basement thru that door to the garage.

FrankM, Moon Township, USA

I'm glad this topic SantaFeJim started back in 2015 was picked up again.  I didn't catch it back then, or I would have commented, I think.  Here is my latest for the layout I plan to start building this winter.  DoubleDAZ Dave did most of the work on the SCARM drawing, with suggestions from many Forum members.  You can see 19 pages of exhaustive discussion about the development of this plan on my topic New O Gauge Layout - Blackwater Canyon Line - Expansion Already!!

As I stated in a reply back in 2015 when this thread first started, one of my goals in designing a new home layout was to have a place where many of my favorite trains could be set up and ready to go. I worked on the design for almost two years as I was not in a position to begin construction anyway. After many iterations, this is where I am and construction has begun. The room is roughly 22' by 22'.

The lower level staging yards are completely hidden from view. The lead tracks to the lower level yards also serve as one half of the double reverse.

The main level will have 2 mainlines plus a few sidings. The various track colors indicate the various elevations.

Moonson posted:

The layout is always on your left as you proceed from the bottom of the stairs and farther into the trainroom. That is, there is one viewing aisle, alongside the right of the layout, which I named "Moon Township."

The first neighborhood you see is the Andreano Village section of the township, featuring 3 mainlines and 1 trolley line, a closed-loop in the nearby Suburban Neighborhood....

Next is the suburban neighborhood.

As you continue to walk further alongside the layout, the next area is the service yard for the trains, which is accompanied by a working man's neighborhood of small businesses to serve a working man's temporary needs while going to or coming from work.

A narrow section, mostly involved with track going to and from somewhere is next.

The 3 mainlines of Level One enter mountains that frame the "V-Valley neighborhood, on three sides, with 1 closed-loop of its own on Level One of the overall layout; 4 closed-loops on its second level, 2 of which frame the valley on 4 sides; a 3rd level closed-loop "dog-bone" is perched in its own neighborhood...

Continuing to walk through the trainroom, we come to the more rural neighborhood's country lane..

...followed by the newest section... ..established in space carved from the 2-car garage, requiring the removal of walls, building walls, raising a floor, and relocating the garage-to-basement door, which also became the location for the bank of ZWs that powers the layout.This part of the viewing aisle allows a left into that newer section, or return to the front of the layout, now on your right side, or you can exit the basement thru that door to the garage.

FrankM, Moon Township, USA

Just incredible Frank!

Gandydancer, I'm glad you liked my reply. I tried to give a perspective on my pride-and-joy (I must confess) and appreciate that you found it positive.

I also Thank these voices for their "Likes": Mark Boyce; Postwarman; trainroomgary; JohnnieWalker.

It's enjoyable to share accomplishment and receive the approval of fellow hobbyists. Thanks again ,guys, for the reach-back.     FrankM

Here is a model of my standard gauge floor layout that I hope one day will become permanent . I have only set this up but twice, and there weren't any switches installed at that time .  It was set up once at the house and once at an adult daycare facility . The scale model is 1" to 1' , 6'x16'. All the cardboard cut outs and half pipe sections represent the correct size of what I own and have made. Even the height of the #92 towers is  the correct scale.  The switches are 042 and red, the lionel crosses are yellow,  the 90 degree cross is MTH and is blue, all the curves are 042 and the 4 straights coming off the 90 cross  are from USA Track out of Malvern PA. and the rest of the straights are from various manufacturers , a few of which are custom cut.  This layout if it ever does become permanent will be a walk around.  Its a lot of track for one train to run on but its interesting , as I get older one train running is all I can handle .

Frank, It is great that so often you take the time to thank those who have commented or "liked" your posts!  Your layout is really a wonderful one.  However, it can't compare to what a wonderful person you are with your encouraging comments!  Thank you!

JohnnieWalker posted:

Here is a model of my standard gauge floor layout that I hope one day will become permanent . I have only set this up but twice, and there weren't any switches installed at that time .  It was set up once at the house and once at an adult daycare facility . The scale model is 1" to 1' , 6'x16'. All the cardboard cut outs and half pipe sections represent the correct size of what I own and have made. Even the height of the #92 towers is  the correct scale.  The switches are 042 and red, the lionel crosses are yellow,  the 90 degree cross is MTH and is blue, all the curves are 042 and the 4 straights coming off the 90 cross  are from USA Track out of Malvern PA. and the rest of the straights are from various manufacturers , a few of which are custom cut.  This layout if it ever does become permanent will be a walk around.  Its a lot of track for one train to run on but its interesting , as I get older one train running is all I can handle .

Johnnie, I really like your model of your model!  I built one once out of cardboard and modeling clay.  The full size layout was never built.  I lost the space it needed.  I can identify with your comment about only being able to run one train at a time.

Here's my track plan. My space is limited. I've included a pic so you can see I squeezed in about as much platform as possible...if I gain 5lbs. i will not be able to move between the layout and the walls.   I had these objectives in mind: be able to run 072 trains; incorporate the Backshop and the MTH passenger station; have a small city and yard using as many operating accessories as possible and give it as much "play" interest as possible.  I forgot to include "access"...so the middle is a challenge. (another reason for the 5lb. rule).  I got some great suggestions from forum members on the track plan a few years ago. I added an elevated section for the trolley. It's point-to-point now, but I plan to close a loop in the future.  16'x7'  My previous layout (different basement)  was 8.5'x16' I had no idea what a difference 1.5' makes!

Mark Boyce posted:

Johnnie, I really like your model of your model!  I built one once out of cardboard and modeling clay.  The full size layout was never built.  I lost the space it needed.  I can identify with your comment about only being able to run one train at a time.

Although I can run 2 trains simultaneously without any worry of them crashing since they are on 2 independently wired blocks, and I'm sure that many of you simultaneously run many trains, I find that running 2 trains makes me feel unsettled and a little anxious,  so I almost always run only one train at a time.

Arnold

gandydancer1950 posted:

Moonson posted:

The layout is always on your left as you proceed from the bottom of the stairs and farther into the trainroom. That is, there is one viewing aisle, alongside the right of the layout, which I named "Moon Township."

The first neighborhood you see is the Andreano Village section of the township, featuring 3 mainlines and 1 trolley line, a closed-loop in the nearby Suburban Neighborhood....

Next is the suburban neighborhood.

As you continue to walk further alongside the layout, the next area is the service yard for the trains, which is accompanied by a working man's neighborhood of small businesses to serve a working man's temporary needs while going to or coming from work.

A narrow section, mostly involved with track going to and from somewhere is next.

The 3 mainlines of Level One enter mountains that frame the "V-Valley neighborhood, on three sides, with 1 closed-loop of its own on Level One of the overall layout; 4 closed-loops on its second level, 2 of which frame the valley on 4 sides; a 3rd level closed-loop "dog-bone" is perched in its own neighborhood...

Continuing to walk through the trainroom, we come to the more rural neighborhood's country lane..

...followed by the newest section... ..established in space carved from the 2-car garage, requiring the removal of walls, building walls, raising a floor, and relocating the garage-to-basement door, which also became the location for the bank of ZWs that powers the layout.This part of the viewing aisle allows a left into that newer section, or return to the front of the layout, now on your right side, or you can exit the basement thru that door to the garage.

FrankM, Moon Township, USA

Just incredible Frank!

LOVE that stack of power !!  Just seeing that is almost more fun than carefully looking at all the layout shots.

Stack of power is right, Bill!!!

I call it "The Tower of Power"

Mark Boyce posted:

Stack of power is right, Bill!!!

I call it "The Tower of Power"

Hi Mark Boyce and Burlington Bill, Originally, those five ZWs were on a low shelf (behind that green fabric drapery on the right, here,) under part of the layout, but when I had the 20'x6' area, off to the left, here, separated from the garage and added to the trainroom, and moved that door to where it is now, I used the occasion to build that arrangement so that I could more comfortably see guests as my wife was leading them downstairs to see the layout, which begins in the area that can be seen off to the far-right of the ZW-bank here.... I wanted to be able to face everybody and not have to bend over to make adjustments to the control levers. Basically, I run just two trains on each one of them, to avoid any shut-offs due to overloading.

My Thanks to both of you for the very pleasant interest and feedback!

FrankM

Here's my new layout that is under construction. It was done for me by DOUBLEDAZ Dave, the master of Scarm.  It's 10' long on the back wall, 9' long on the side wall and 6' long on the L'.  Only 3' deep along the walls to let this old guy reach everything. I can run 2 trains and have storage tracks to display engines. Lionel 027 track.  Much more than I expected. Thanks Dave!

Frank, I think the stacked ZWs is a great idea!  It's no fun stooping over to make adjustments!

Gary, I remember following along on that plan by Dave!  He does a great job.  I'm glad you have it under construction!

RD posted:

Here is the plan I found in an HO book and converted to O gauge with plenty of help from the forum.... 

Rich -

I have liked this track plan from the first day you posted it.  I'm guessing, but I figure that was around Feb-Mar of 2017.  That was 18 months ago.  PLEASE tell us that it is well under way and post some pics.

BTW what are the dimensions of the HO version?  Text too small for me to read.

Thanks,

Jim

RD -

You can ignore the previous post.

I found the track plan on the MRR website for track plans.

Click on the image for a larger easier to view image.

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