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Now for something completely different.  Well, not really.  I made this effort with two goals, I wanted to know if I could make the outside perimeter minimum O48 (improved appearance and grace, and O42 equipment), and I wanted to see if I could improve access and reach into the interior of the layout, knowing that for homes and for most of its time, the layout is likely to be up against a wall or in a corner.

So I reworked and rotated the layout.  It was an ugly process, but the result is interesting.

LionelLines_v4d

One person might be able to operate inside the triangle with the lift-out bridges in place, but it would be tight.

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@Prewarrkt posted:

If everything was 036 FasTrack could it be reduces to 5’6 x 10’

No, the curvature of the outside perimeter doesn't add anything to the width or length.  Removing the outside perimeter would do that, but that is a different layout then.  The redo above actually shrunk the layout by 2", from 6'6"by11'6" to slightly smaller 6'4"by11'6".

A more conventional way to connect two loops would shrink the layout, this one is unusual in the way the loops connect (and interesting).  I have published other layouts on the forum that connect two loops in different configurations, that are either narrower or shorter than this one.

Here is a smaller layout that connects two loops together to show what I mean, only 5'x9':

M59-02-V2e-SheyenneValley

Here is another different idea, 5'x10' connecting two loops with return loops and crossings:

M510-03F_v2b

One more, just because, this one is 5'x12'.  The INSIDE route is O44 compound (running O42) with a wider compound route outside:

M512-03-5X12_O36O48_v2b--interchangeable

Here is the 4x10 I am running now:

M410F-04_v2f

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This version has more "efficient" cross-overs between the O48 and O36 routes.  The layout is a bit shorter at 11'4" long, and still 6'4" wide.

The passing track is O48 (O48 is Blue).

LionelLines_v5c

Doesn't look much like the original "toy train" style layout, but is better in many ways.  But I can understand if someone prefers the earlier style in 6'6" by 11'6"  - personal choice:

LionelLines_v4b

Or even the O31 FasTrack close to the actual catalog layout:

LionelLines

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I replaced the FasTrack lift-out bridges with two Atlas-O bridges, each a single section,  of 40", and the other slightly less at 39 7/16" (due to the fit with FasTrack).

M611F__v5j

I might cut four 10" sections of Fastrack to make a better fit approaching the bridges, and to give a square end to the track section for the bridge to butt-up against.   And make each bridge section exactly 40".

For scale, that is about an 11 year-old kid operating trains in the center, using the Lionel Universal Remote.

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The above "mature and modern" track plan departed significantly from the original design vision of the catalog plan.  So I felt like taking a few minutes to re-look at an earlier plan that still looks like the original design.

LionelLines

LionelLines_v1gV2

This updated and modernized version of the track plan has these enhancements over the original:

  1. O31 FasTrack Minimum
  2. O36 FasTrack for the outside loop and passing track (BLUE) (and the connecting RR has two O60 turnouts).
  3. The addition of the 2nd cross-over creates a passing track
  4. The addition of the figure-8 and crossing allows train reversing and train routing fun
  5. Added a 3-track mini-yard, with a switch lead that does not interfere with running the inside loop (a third operator working the yard)
  6. The top spur was extended to make a connection with another RR with O60 turnouts (or for future expansion), adding operating purpose and rational.  This spur can also stage a third train, to take turns with two other trains.
  7. Construct as a table with legs on rolling wheels, to pull away from the wall for 360-degree access.
  8. This two-train layout has options for three trains with the top O60 staging track, and a fourth train standing on the passing track.  A switcher could be positioned in the yard, for five locos.  Perhaps three operators.

 Still 6.5x11.5 as the original plan.  Unless pulled away from the wall for 360-degree access, it has problems with reach and access.  This size can be made a single table on rolling legs, to help with that problem,  The very interior is a long reach, even with 360-degree access.

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A couple more additions:

LionelLines_v1gV2c

With the new Passenger Boarding Track, the layout can host FIVE trains!:  One operating on each loop, the Connecting RR Spur staging, the passing track, and the Passenger Boarding Track.   Plus a switcher operating the yard, for six locos and three operators.

Checking the 2020 Lionel Catalog, most LionChief trains sets are O31.  Those with the Tier 4 locos require O36.  There are some O27 sets as well.

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