Wish list for the next Lionel catalog

Maybe not this catalog but how about a;

Santa Fe style SCALE Wabash caboose like used on Black River and Western to go with the previous released set

SCALE tourist railroad gondolas with bench seating and cutouts on the ends for steps to adjoining passenger cars.

@Paul Finn posted:

Maybe not this catalog but how about a;

SCALE tourist railroad gondolas with bench seating and cutouts on the ends for steps to adjoining passenger cars.

My thought is that if the Aberdeen Carolina & Western locos and cars are popular enough they will invest in the tooling for those kinds of open air cars and then use them for a number of excursion railroads.

Another set that I think @Conrail6358 could consider and would be cool to see is a modern BNSF Business Train.

We have had sets produced for Norfolk Southern, Conrail, UP, CSX (which I have on order), AC&W (also on order), etc, but no modern BNSF set that I can recall.  I think an ES44 pulling a set of silver BNSF business cars with a theatre car in the rear would sell well.  I am not an expert, and Ryan at Lionel would have more info, but some Santa Fe passenger cars would probably work well.

@Oscale_Trains_Lover_ posted:

They never will do it, but I want Metroliners!

Bryce

I was just thinking of asking Scott Mann to use those scale length amfleet dies to do Metroliners.

The British Columbia Railway had double-door 50' exterior-post boxcars built by National Steel Car that were similar to the Standard O scale double-door 50' exterior-post boxcars that have been brought back into production.

BRITISH COLUMBIA RAILWAY

BCIT series 841600-842099 built by National Steel Car, Mar-May 1979.

There were 500 boxcars in the BRITISH COLUMBIA RAILWAY scheme with the name and dogwood flower.

Andrew

I may have said this already, but I’d like to see a Lionel Legacy PA-1 set in the New Haven’s orange and green with pinstripes or the New Haven’s hunter green and yellow paint scheme.  I admit that the McGinnis paint scheme is snazzy, but it’s past my era.

Canadian Pacific bought PS-1 40' boxcars in 1952 

During the late 1960's and early 1970's these PS-1 40' boxcars were repainted into the CP Rail scheme with the Multimark logo.

The people at LIONEL have yet to offer and produce the action red CP Rail PS-1 40' boxcars.

https://www.railcarphotos.com/...ls.php?PhotoID=69774

They would be perfect for O scale model freight trains based on the real ones that operated in Canada or the United States between 1968 and 2000.

Andrew

@Paul Finn posted:

I was just thinking of asking Scott Mann to use those scale length amfleet dies to do Metroliners.

That is a great idea! I’d love to see a Metroliner offered by one of the manufacturers, and 3rd Rail would be amazingly detailed. Question is, which paint scheme would I want? The PC livery is sharp, but that early Amtrak livery would be cool to see/have on my pike.

i had a dream last night that i saw the catalog

the whole book was printed and it was spectacular 300 pages 200 of which were traditional items

heres what i saw before i woke up-

the return of hotwheels themed trains including a lionchief 2.0 set that used the mth coars silver bullet tooling and newly tooled autoracks and the train could hold 150 hotwheels cars and was called the hotwheels super train set and i remember telling my friend that i was going to preorder it

a rebirth of the shark research and rescue set with a dash 8 and more cars

and then i woke up all mad because it wasn't real everything was so vivid though i only remember those two sets

@paigetrain posted:

i had a dream last night that i saw the catalog

the whole book was printed and it was spectacular 300 pages 200 of which were traditional items

heres what i saw before i woke up-

the return of hotwheels themed trains including a lionchief 2.0 set that used the mth coars silver bullet tooling and newly tooled autoracks and the train could hold 150 hotwheels cars and was called the hotwheels super train set and i remember telling my friend that i was going to preorder it

a rebirth of the shark research and rescue set with a dash 8 and more cars

and then i woke up all mad because it wasn't real everything was so vivid though i only remember those two sets

Sweet! I had a dream too & all items in the catalog were free!! We’re all getting free big boys!!!! (Alarm blares loudly in my ear at 0 dark 30!) time to WAKE UP & go to work

@paigetrain posted:

i had a dream last night that i saw the catalog

the whole book was printed and it was spectacular 300 pages 200 of which were traditional items

I had a dream like that, but only 100 pages covered traditional items.  The other 200 were all scale, all new tooling.

Hey Cody, I hope your wishes for the next catalog crush it!  That’s the whole point of this awesome hobby: even if I don’t get what I want from the next offering, I sure hope you do! It all eventually comes around.

@falconservice posted:

Canadian Pacific bought PS-1 40' boxcars in 1952

During the late 1960's and early 1970's these PS-1 40' boxcars were repainted into the CP Rail scheme with the Multimark logo.

The people at LIONEL have yet to offer and produce the action red CP Rail PS-1 40' boxcars.

https://www.railcarphotos.com/...ls.php?PhotoID=69774

They would be perfect for O scale model freight trains based on the real ones that operated in Canada or the United States between 1968 and 2000.

Andrew

Lionel, MTH and Weaver have all done several versions of the Packman cars over the years. I have the green Weaver PS-1 NEWS PRINT car. Although Lionel didn’t offer a red C.P. PS1 40’ they did sell an AAR 50’ Double-Door auto frame scale car. Not a scheme that sells well I.M.O. 6-17756. I grew up seeing mainly the CPR block lettered & script cars which have also been done over the years.

Still hoping for someone in O scale to finally offer a series of 40' & 50' combo-door cars. We need to add other boxcar models.

The Polar Express snow globe. I've seen pictures of it but was it ever made?

Where did the, if some was developed, MTH McKeen car tooling go?  I still want that, the Little River 2-4-4-2, the little Mack double ended switcher, a Mack scale-bodied railbus, a D&SL Mikado with Coffin FWH, and a continuing list of items that are new tooling and that will never be produced in today's world. So l have to keep my money.

Anything New York & Atlantic.  Preferably a diesel of some kind.

I'm still hoping for S2 Turbine.

Some steam era N&W CF and CG cabooses would be nice. They are sorely needed, especially with the Class As coming.

Would also be great to get some C&O 19000 series ones too.

How about something really nice that Lionel never made before. A Vision Line Tri-Plex. They could get the dies from MTH to mfg. 

a semi scale Metra set with the new bi level coradia cars metra is getting complete with opening doors and roofs and posable commuter figures that can be added and removed - a huge boost in play value especially for the kids and kid at heart

IRT 7 train cars, worlds fair paint scheme, with operating doors

green R27 reissue

CP Rail action red Multimark paint scheme on a combination door 40' box car with a plug-door and a Youngstown door. 

Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery - CP 100150 (railfan.ca)

Andrew

@ACGilbert posted:

I’d like to see a scale SD7, SD9, maybe SD18. These first gen six axle units have been overlooked for far too long. O-gauge and S-gauge as well! I think there’s a market for them.

I would definitely consider a pair (or one of each) of some PRR SD7s or SD9s, if… IF they were scale, with Legacy, done in the correct shade of DGLE, and had flanged drivers on the outer most and inner most (closest to the fuel tank) axles.

@CAPPilot posted:

Thank you.  I will take a look.  Is there much difference between a 40 and a 40-2? Have to get on the web for pics, but not a big deal.

There’s a lot of difference. The Dash 2 was built on an SD45-2 frame which was 3 ft longer than the SD45 frame but used the same basic overall hood length of the SD40. This created the large front and rear “porches” on the SD40-2 that are stand-out features. Additionally, they came with the new HT-C trucks that replaced the Flexcoil trucks (except for the Conrail units which were still configured with the older trucks).

That said, Lionel’s (and MTH’s) version of the SD40-2 are not particularly good, so opting for an SD40 frame might not be that big of a deal.

This is why I’m extremely excited for the 3rd Rail SD40-2 project.

They could produce true 1:64th scale and true 1:48th scale 45' Trailers with Rounded corners on the ends and the potential for various operating door combinations on the sides and ends to match the variety of real trailers built between 1960-1999.

Andrew

I would like to see Lionel make the EMC FT diesels in demonstrator livery. They came in ABBA sets originally.  So maybe Lionel could make it in a AB with add on A and B units. Since Lionel already makes the FT in LionChief I think this would be a easy one to make.

Fixed pilot kits for current and previous Legacy locomotives.

I'd like to see a Legacy or Lionchief Plus 2.0 New York Central Commodore Vanderbilt Hudson.  The last one I think that was made was in the 90's.

lionchief or LC2.0 New Hope railroad set

i have a hunch our next lionchief 2.0 diesel is the GP38

lionchief plus 2.0 strasburg stuff

over all i want something cool that i can afford and bring home

Has anyone heard when the Lionel 2023 Volume 1 catalog will be released.

Thanks, Phil

Wow, this thread seems to get great results. Lionel Listens to us. Many months ago, I requested that Lionel offer the really cool 0-4-0 Steam switcher, in Legacy command,  sometimes called “The Shifter” with slope back tender and they did. It’s shown in the 2022 signature catalog in several different road names. I ordered the B&O livery, I wonder when they will ship these models. I’m excited!

Personally, I would like the return of the 18 inch aluminum scale like passenger cars in many road names. I like them much better than the 21 inch plastic versions offered today. This go around they could offer LED lighting, new StationSounds announcements and more realistic observation car drum heads. Just thinking.
Merry Christmas and Happy Railroading Everyone

@PHILA posted:

Has anyone heard when the Lionel 2023 Volume 1 catalog will be released.

Thanks, Phil

Probably third week in January would be a good guess. Won't really know until next year maybe after the 10th or there about.

@falconservice posted:

CP Rail action red Multimark paint scheme on a combination door 40' box car with a plug-door and a Youngstown door.

Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery - CP 100150 (railfan.ca)

Andrew

I hope to see new cars offered by someone in the near future. Sure would boost box cars sales I would expect. Why these common boxcars were never offer in 3r O is beyond me. U.S. Hobbies is the only 2r 50' once offered most likely wrong time, wrong market.

New catalog release date is Thursday Jan 12th.

Jim

@Jim Sandman posted:

New catalog release date is Thursday Jan 12th.

Jim

I was close.

I got nothing on this round. I ended up not ordering from the last catalog either. We'll see what happens! The Bigboy is enticing just because I don't have one but the price tag will be the deciding factor on that one.

Regardless, I'll be excited to see the catalog!!

The originator of this thread seems to have been MIA since July.  Hope he's ok.

Not sure I am looking for much in anyone's catalog these days but it would be nice to see some traditional size LC+2.0 locomotices.  A real S-2 Turbine PW style (not the Bantam junk) would be a cool set.

@MartyE posted:

The originator of this thread seems to have been MIA since July.  Hope he's ok.

Not sure I am looking for much in anyone's catalog these days but it would be nice to see some traditional size LC+2.0 locomotices.  A real S-2 Turbine PW style (not the Bantam junk) would be a cool set.

Agreed, some of the usual "catalog fever" has worn off for me. I've never been one to say I have all the trains I need, but the reality is that it's true. Something has to really jump off the pages for me to hit that pre-order button.

Having said that, I'm also hoping to see something new and different in the Lion Chief + 2.0 line as that's right in my wheelhouse.

I'd like to see the return of Magne-traction!

Maybe traditional tinplate track too - O and O27 height (O72 curves in O27 height please - these were last made by K-Line about 20 years ago).