"YOU TUBE" Lionel Maximum 4x8 layout

Post the youtube link. I am not sure about the one you are talking about.

Notice that it only has one reverse loop. The video stops once he uses it because he has to reverse the train with "the hand of god".

027 curves are great for a 4 x 8 design.

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3AK-DnIsPg

YES beat me to IT!! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3AK-DnIsPg

For me I think its the one with a little modifying..   DANiel

For got to mention hon his web site HE gives the track PLAN!!

yep, here it is. You could fix it for reversing both ways with a 3 switch wye where he has the r-loop.

Ok what's a 3 way switch and where's the r -loop can you show it modify his track plans I want to add a another loop all around it with two extra switches so I can run 2 trains on the table hopefully 5 x9 thanks DANiel

has anyone made  a operating layout with his idea? can show it..?

LOL IT WORKED!

Here would be my idea of the posted video track plan... I attached the SCARM file if you want it.

Ted

I should add that that is a 5.6% grade from tunnel to switch based on 0 to 6 inch elevation. I think making it a 5 X 9 would do a vast amount of justice to the layout.

If you extend the layout out to 5X9 and adjust the track accordingly, you get a max grade of 4.3%. Much more doable.

Ted

I tried. I couldn't make it work. Start clockwise and turn to counter-clockwise, that's it.

Thanks TED! what if I added another loop on the outside and had the same plan but 6x9 and had two switches to make the trains go  in different direction when they switch ..  for the outside switches added.. I think I did this with my last layout  go to DANIELS SUPER O LIONEL   on you tube  thanks again TED... DANiel

Dan, I am not sure exactly what your asking (forgive me for being thick tonight) but I think this must be close...

It is 6 X 10.5 but you might squeeze it into 6 X 10 with some very careful alignments. The steepest grade is 5% in the back grade and 4% in the front grade.

Good luck!

Ted

DanssuperO,

here's a maximum action for a 4 x 8 by ACE. Perhaps he can tell the story, but it's named "Clive Ellis Diamond Junction". I always liked it.

I really didn't like Mr. DG's layout. Good for him that he got someone to pay for it.

LOL

...and if your going to go that far, why not make it 6X12 and really thin those grades out.

Here is a version where the rearmost grade is 4% and the front is 3.1% and the upper reverser loop is just better.

Ya, I don't sleep much.

Ted

THANK-YOU TED and Moonman /...(CARL)

You guys are good .. If you could (please) if you have time  I really like the original design because of the bridges and to me makes a small layout look larger.. I also like the idea of another loop around the whole board with two switches ..

 So what I am thinking of asking is I want to use this time gargrave plastic curves I think they are 042 ? and Lionel super O switches again I liked them!  Also I want to use gargraves 32 or36 inch straights? wood ties

I would like you if you could make a template using those tracks  on a drawing grid like you did PLUS make me a list of what I need 

I do not care what the dimensions are as long as it does not get larger than 10 foot by 6 foot   IF you have to go 12 foot by 6 foot..!BECAUSE I do not want to reach over any more last layout  I had to climb  on top in the middle  of layout  (NO MORE)! 

GREENSBERG MONROVILLE SHOW IS THIS SAT AND SUNDAY here in PA

I think I would forfit finding trains for track and switches this time! 

Thank-you for your time...DANiel

Sorry Dan, that will have to be a DIY project... I only do 0-27.

I attached the SCARM file. Just click the link and when it opens click save as...

Then open in SCARM and click TOOLS-->PARTS LIST.

You have to open the attachment in SCARM.... meaning first you must download and install SCARM.

Oh boy my old computer probably could not handle that.. If you have it and post it I appreciated it if not Thank-you for all you help   I'll do it the old fashion way and just eye it!    already!DAniel

which one lol 4X8 5X9 6X10 or 6X12 lol?

Your very kind!  thank-you  I'm going for sure at least 6x10 might go 6x12 

ahhh too bad lol. My favorite is the 5X9...I wanted to see it built. Gimme a little bit to make the needed files kk.

Ted

OK Here is the 6X10.5 ish finished with some cool it ups added. I added a small yard in the center and a small industry in the upper loop just to keep ya busy.

If you want to go 12 feet simply add a foot and a half of track to all the east west straight runs...

I hope all of this comes through.

Ted

Maybe a better parts list...

No.	Image	Number	Name	Scale	Producer	Pcs.	Note
1		6‑65014	65014	O27	Lionel	2
2		6‑65019	65019	O27	Lionel	10	Including 2 cuttings from whole tracks
3		6‑65021	65021	O27	Lionel	8
4		6‑65022	65022	O27	Lionel	7
5		6‑65033	65033	O27	Lionel	36	Including 2 cuttings from whole tracks
6		6‑65038	65038	O27	Lionel	76	Including 16 cuttings from whole tracks
Total:						139	Tracks count: 139; Including 20 cuttings from whole tracks

TED THANK-YOU sorry to be a pain the images do not show on my side.. sorry 

But everything else is Good 6 should be straight  (76) track ....5  (36)should be curves....sorry 1 through 4 not sure ..

Dan,

which one of Ted's adaptations do you like? Copy the track plan pic that you like and attach it to your reply.

I would have to do it in RR-Track as SCARM does not have the Super-O library for the switches. The #112 Super-O are 0-36.

Also, will the PT and WT Gargraves mate up properly? same tie height?

Ted really IS and DID a great JOB! I like the way he did this one I might move the switches down in the 6 oclock position   further away though..

Yes I have seen gargraves work with the super O switches  just fine...  8 x10 might go 8 x 12 though ...thank-you for your time!!..DANiel As mention I like the original you tube layout  and I do lie the train to find a way to go the other way  with out loosing that visual bridge look  ...

No.	Image	Number	Name	Scale	Producer	Pcs.	Note
1		6‑65014	65014	O27	Lionel	2
2		6‑65019	65019	O27	Lionel	10	Including 2 cuttings from whole tracks
3		6‑65021	65021	O27	Lionel	8
4		6‑65022	65022	O27	Lionel	7
5		6‑65033	65033	O27	Lionel	36	Including 2 cuttings from whole tracks
6		6‑65038	65038	O27	Lionel	76	Including 16 cuttings from whole tracks
Total:						139	Tracks count: 139; Including 20 cuttings from whole tracks

 

TED THANK-YOU sorry to be a pain the images do not show on my side.. sorry 

But everything else is Good 6 should be straight  (76) track ....5  (36)should be curves....sorry 1 through 4 not sure ..

 

lets see... 021 and 022 are switches. 014 is a half curve or 22.5 deg. 033 is the typical 45 deg curve and 038 is a straight at 8.75 inch. 019 is a half straight or 4.88 inch. This is all based on O-27 track per the original 4X8 loops.

Ted

You could also use the newer 5021 and 5022 remoter switches. I get them on the bay for about 5 bucks each with careful shopping. Otherwise the run from 12 to 14 if you are in a hurry.

Ted

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Thank-you Ted for "ALL YOUR time" If you where a Lionel you  would be this one and I would put it on the top shelpf!!

Next stop time to start getting track!!! Thanks again DANiel

Yea, I agree about those switches on the outer loop... It was late and I had just got home from darts...

Here ya go.

If it were me, I would do this setup as a walk around ie.. in the middle of a room. That way you could lose the tunnel down the back and add a cool retaining wall etc.. This would also facilitate 'easy reach' to the center of the layout...

Just my .02

Ted

HI Ted! your worth more than the 2 cents to me though! LOL

I do not want those the switches in the center I need that room for some buildings etc.  that will save me a switch it seems  I will be able to use the upper level for some buildings etc..

I been remodeling my house and I put a slate wall that you do not need to use grout after you put it up 

I think its really going to work on this layout for retain walls 

I think when I make the platform this time I might make the table in sections Last table I had to saw zaw away!   this will be  abasement layout  as mention replacing this one..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6ZMUJeDgJQ      

I want to run them enjoy them and wtill be able to work and change the layout as the season come and go I rather have center and top pre models made for each season so more family member and friend can enjoy the layout. with me!..

Yes this will be in the center of the room again  I think(know) your right no tunnel on the top end..

DAniel

OH MAN, I love that layout in your video! That little trolley, way up high, just mindin its business is cool.

Ted

Considering most have limited space this is a great topic. Like how this one got bigger, and bigger.

I've built the benchwork for the below. It hangs above a car on jacks in my garage with the help of a modified version of this. The car will go soon and my son and I will continue. Will post. 

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https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...n-little-help-needed

Daniel,

My question was why plastic curves and wooden straights with GG track?

Are the ties the same thickness?