Originally Posted by Hot Water:
How do any of the various MTH Premier N&W J Class models compare?
The MTH 20-3313 appears to be "on the money".
The last TMCC class J Lionel 6-38095 seems to be off as much as the new legacy version.
Lionel did get the "warhorse" striping correct though
Big Jim is correct. Front of the tender is higher than the top of the cab. It looks to me as if the stripes would be about even if the cab was the correct height.
If someone comes up with a fix, please post it
Thanks
Yes, by all means post a cure for this uneven stripe so that we can make it even. Thanks....I like the pictures posted, and really, the stripe is not a big concern. Happy Railroading
Has anyone who has the Legacy Pocahontas Set contacted Lionel? If so what was the response or fix? Also note that the engine does not have the spoke type wheels on the pilot as shown in the 2012 catalog.
I'm very doubtful we'll see a "fix" -- especially since the stripe mismatch has existed now for several Lionel scale J's. Although I agree it would look much better with the stripe on the loco and tender aligned correctly.
Like with the recent California Zephyr being delayed for so long, I think Lionel was just glad to get the Pocahontas set finally out the door -- the difference here being the quality of the aluminum passenger cars seems to be similar to Lionel's production runs of 7-10 years ago.
David
Maybe a washer (over the screws) between the rear frame and the body at the rear of the loco.
JR
The later Js including the 611 did not have spoked wheels.
My set is scheduled for delivery on Monday. I'm going to look at what can be done to get the alignment right.
Glad to to hear you got a set leapinlarry, even with all of the quirks I'm looking forward to mine.
2015 is a great year for the 611! I've been waiting 21 years to experience her steam again!
Oh yeah the rear of the engine is definitely drooping down...and the tender stripe is too high. I agree with Jim either a washer or a stiffer spring to raise it up would work most likely. You can see the correct alignment if you will in this photo...
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N&W Class J, do the Restored J Class Engines (611, ect) still run on the rails for ceremonial purposes or are they officially decommissioned and rest in a museum? The fact that the historical engine still exists is really cool! Also, does anyone have an idea why Lionel would misalign the J Class stripe?
Of the original 14 that were built by the N&W only the 611 still exists and currently is under restoration at Spencer (North Carolina) at the North Carolina Transportation Museum. During her former career in excursion service 1982-1994 she ran many, many excursion all over the NS system, and after her rebuild is complete she will operate in excursion service again on a smaller scale.
As for the stripe issue it appears in the photos/video that the cab is sitting low, as for the stripe which may be slightly high...who knows. But I would first try raising the rear of the engine and seeing how it looks first.
Originally Posted by N&W Class J:
As for the stripe issue it appears in the photos/video that the cab is sitting low, as for the stripe which may be slightly high...who knows. But I would first try raising the rear of the engine and seeing how it looks first.
Since these die cast model are fairly ridged and the drive wheel axles are not sprung, in the process of trying to raise the rear of the engine, one just might be lifting the rear driver set off the rails. Remember that the trailing truck on these model does not support any engine weight, and is pretty much "along for the ride" so to speak.
Originally Posted by Dan's Trains:
N&W Class J, do the Restored J Class Engines (611, ect) still run on the rails for ceremonial purposes or are they officially decommissioned and rest in a museum? The fact that the historical engine still exists is really cool! Also, does anyone have an idea why Lionel would misalign the J Class stripe?
Maybe cause there quality control is lacking? I am not a mth fan either 97% of my engines are lionel.. Just the truth ..
I have seen pictures of my 611, and the stripes on the Locomotive are lower than the tender. Who has a really Great Remedy for straightening this stripe strait? If Lionel has a Cure, maybe they will chime in. It is a Quality Control Issue, hands down....Other than this stripe offset, the Locomotive performs Superb...Its a WOW.....Happy Railroading.
I've posted a poll about the stripe in another thread.
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by N&W Class J:
As for the stripe issue it appears in the photos/video that the cab is sitting low, as for the stripe which may be slightly high...who knows. But I would first try raising the rear of the engine and seeing how it looks first.
Since these die cast model are fairly ridged and the drive wheel axles are not sprung, in the process of trying to raise the rear of the engine, one just might be lifting the rear driver set off the rails. Remember that the trailing truck on these model does not support any engine weight, and is pretty much "along for the ride" so to speak.
As I said five posts before:
quote:Maybe a washer (over the screws) between the rear frame and the body at the rear of the loco.
Originally Posted by Big Jim:
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by N&W Class J:
As for the stripe issue it appears in the photos/video that the cab is sitting low, as for the stripe which may be slightly high...who knows. But I would first try raising the rear of the engine and seeing how it looks first.
Since these die cast model are fairly ridged and the drive wheel axles are not sprung, in the process of trying to raise the rear of the engine, one just might be lifting the rear driver set off the rails. Remember that the trailing truck on these model does not support any engine weight, and is pretty much "along for the ride" so to speak.
As I said five posts before:
quote:Maybe a washer (over the screws) between the rear frame and the body at the rear of the loco.
That's insane how about they fix it right ...After all it's a 1600 set or a 1100 engine ..I mean really . Am I the only one that's tired of fixing factory defects?
Originally Posted by jojofry:
That's insane how about they fix it right ...After all it's a 1600 set or a 1100 engine ..I mean really . Am I the only one that's tired of fixing factory defects?
Baby steps, this is the first legacy loco that hasn't had endless numbers of smoke unit failure posts/threads........yet.
Originally Posted by Rocky Mountaineer:
Looks like all you guys who've complained about Lionel's 18" passenger car "windows" now have something else to focus on. 
FWIW, this has been "mismatched" for quite some time now. It was like this on the TMCC version of 611J. And not surprisingly also on the Legacy 612J, which was produced at the same time as the Legacy 611J that's packaged in the Pocahontas Set.
Can't say it ever really bothered me... But then neither did "the windows". 
David
I have the scale #611 J TMCC version from around 2005. To my eyes, the stripes are lined up perfectly.
Here's a shot with tender uncoupled to draw it closer..
Joe
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