Lionel torpedo boat GP7

I looked at the picture on the website, as well.  Lionel Legacy CNW GP9 #1725

From what I can tell, the winterization hatch is integral to the rear fan hatch, and shown as #18 on the picture.

I'm also assuming that the "Deco Kit" mentioned in the picture above the dynamic brake hatch are the air tanks.  That center hatch should pop off with the air tanks attached and you should be able to tell if they can be removed.  There are more than a few holes that they would mount in to, including an air line that runs back along the long hood top. Picture here

The air tanks were moved to the top to make room for a larger fuel tank, so my guess is that the fuel tank is also different from other GP9s.

Thanks!

- Mario

Im sure its all "removable". What tool is required to remove it is probably the question. I doubt the parts diagram will sell those things separately, but there's no way to paint the roof (at least well) with the air tanks mounted or the hatch in place, so somewhere along the way, they were separate parts.

What are you trying to do? That might be a better angle to address the problem.

C&NW GP units with the air tanks on the roof did have larger fuel tanks than the standard production units.  However, not all railroads that had roof tanks on the roof had larger fuel tanks.  PRR's dual service GP7s did not, while GN and SP&S GP9s had the larger fuel tanks.  Between the prototype GP7 and GP9 production runs there were at least 3 different size of fuel tanks that I can think off the top of my head.

To the OP, a question.  Are you looking to create the C&NW version of this locomotive or remove parts from that version to convert it to another road?   

@GG1 4877 posted:

C&NW GP units with the air tanks on the roof did have larger fuel tanks than the standard production units.  However, not all railroads that had roof tanks on the roof had larger fuel tanks.  PRR's dual service GP7s did not, while GN and SP&S GP9s had the larger fuel tanks.  Between the prototype GP7 and GP9 production runs there were at least 3 different size of fuel tanks that I can think off the top of my head.

To the OP, a question.  Are you looking to create the C&NW version of this locomotive or remove parts from that version to convert it to another road?   

I also believe the dual service locomotives had a water tank and fuel tank in place, hence the move of the air tanks to the roof.  A great look, BTW... I love the torpedo Geeps.

Thanks!

- Mario

I'm looking for a core to make a non DB equipped GP9 in the south.  Non dynamic models are not nearly as common as DB units.  I can buy the shorter fuel tank and air tanks, the extra fan that the winterization hatch covers is the key.  Paint and paint condition not an issue (nor plugging and minoy putty work for holes).

Pretty standard GP with no DB and 4 36 inch fans is the ultimate goal

@CentralFan1976 posted:

I also believe the dual service locomotives had a water tank and fuel tank in place, hence the move of the air tanks to the roof.  A great look, BTW... I love the torpedo Geeps.

Thanks!

- Mario

The Burlington had some "passenger" Geeps, (Picture 1, Picture 2,) but didn't have torpedo tubes on the roof.  My guess fuel capacity was sacrificed for water capacity.

Rusty