Older mth premier Amtrak p42 tmcc help

Lionel has available a Dash-9 railsound board for 45.00 that would work. Which one are you looking at for 85.00?

Electricrr.com what lionel support referred me to please tell me where at for 45.00. Next this is how do I install it lol never done it before

Was on the phone with the guy and he was telling me I need a type speed board similar to  lionel odyssey as well. And if I wanted ossolating ditch lights it's separate chip as well 

Order from Lionel parts online P/N 691-RS4E-03B. This is a replacement plug and play board with a GE engine sound. It won't have the Amtrak style horn, but better than the generic horn sound you have now. You don't need the Electric RR co. complete sound set-up, as you already have the power supply board and speaker. If you want the Odyssey type speed control, and oscillating ditch lights, then yes, you will have to gut the entire electronics package in the engine and start over with the Electric RR Co. electronics packages. (Which doesn't have the Amtrak 5 chime horn either.)

You can graft simply the RailSounds Commander into the existing system very simply if you like that sound better. All the RS Commander needs is serial data and track power and ground.  That's very simple to supply.Since the ERR boards are RS5 based, you will have better audio than the RS4 replacement board.

If you want operating ditch lights, the cheapest way is to buy the ERR Sound Converter.  An unadvertised feature of the $25 board is the fact that it has operating LED ditch light outputs.  Here's a link to a post where I demo the ditch light outputs.

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...59#70974704549021259

Okay I'm gonna go with the 45.00 option how do I install it to what I have existing (I've never done this and have no experience whatsoever with installation) 

Pull old sound card off it's connector, press new sound card onto the same connector, job done.   The sound card is in the middle, the Generic Diesel card.

So the sound card is that small little chip on the middle of the three bigger black chips (the small thing that says "Gend _ 05 lionel trains") and that's it

or is the sound chip that whole big black chip itself including that little black chip that says "Gend _05 lionel trains") 

just want to clarify as previously stated I've never done this before and what do you guys recommend to use for tools that way I don't break anything? 

The sound board is the whole plug-in board.  The chip that's on it that states it's the Generic Diesel sound set is just the actual sound files.  However, the RS4 boards had more background noise in the recordings than the RS5 and later boards.

Okay so I’m re visiting this topic for a little extra help. I found a railsounds 4e chip I really want. I’m wondering if it will work with this setup since this is a 4.0 setup and not a rail sounds 4E. Are they interchangeable and is it a direct drop and go or do I need other parts? Just wanna know before I pull the trigger.

And for more clarification, (as I don’t wanna mess my engine up,) what board do I yank out as I’ve never done this before and am nervous as hell 

All three or the middle one with the smaller chip on it? Or is the smaller chip in that thing all I need to pull out and replace or is it the complete middle section of the board? Or is it every black board? 

What im being quoted is 45.00 for the chip and it looks like the one in the middle with the smaller chip on it.  Sorry for lots of questions just need help

It's the board in the middle that you want to replace. With your fingers grab the board(not the black header underneath it) and lift it straight up and off the header below.

Then make sure your pins are lined up with the header and push your new board down and your done.

Doug

The engine has one of my old TAS SAW boards. It has everything you need. In fact all you need is the RS5 audio board and replace it with the board in the center. Done.

developed over 15 years ago and still simple! Gotta love it.

Mike

Thank you guys very much so last thing. Will a 4E rs chip work in this? Found one with a k5la ge sound file reason why I’m asking 

The 4E or 5.0 boards will work fine.  The only difference between the RS4 and the RS4E is different programming in the chips, they use the same PCB.  The RS5 is a different board, but it will function fine in that engine as well.