It is 4 weeks before York and hardly any activity in the York Meet Forum ???
Pre-Covid this was full of questions and discussions. I miss the TCA and Eastern Division trashing! No Eddie G count down?
What's the deal?
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Eddie G is long gone from the forum.
I prefer to go to the York Meet and not just talk about it. 
@Sam posted:It is 4 weeks before York and hardly any activity in the York Meet Forum ???
Pre-Covid this was full of questions and discussions. I miss the TCA and Eastern Division trashing! No Eddie G count down?
What's the deal?
Eddie broke the rules and paid the price. I won't be at April but hope to go in Oct.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I prefer to go to the York Meet and not just talk about it.
Yep! The very best way to experience it is by being there. Some of my buddies over in PA talked me into going to the April meet with them (with one of them driving and an extra seat available), so at this time I am planning to go over with them on Thursday morning and returning home on Friday.
There are usually 10 plus members of TCA Nor-Cal (SF Bay Area) who go to each York meet. I don't know anyone who is going in April. I think that is going to take some time before people are comfortable traveling again. We are just beginning to go to restaurants, movie theaters, and local train shows. NH Joe
Flying doesn’t bother me. It’s going through airports that drives me nuts. But after I get back from Hawaii next weekend, then drive to Phoenix to take Mom, my son and grandson to the Diamondbacks Opening Day and drive back home, I’ll be getting ready for York!!
I’ll be arriving solo as Lynley has work obligations to tend to. So I’ll be running, Uhhmm, strolling wild through the aisles!!
Well, I sorta miss all the OGR pre-York whining and moaning.
Maybe the absence of a few York meets made people appreciate the meet for what it is. (No I don't really believe that, but just hoping).
If I get to go it will be a last minute decision. If I can't go, it will be the first York I've missed in 6 months.
Why whine and moan about the best O gauge show around?
I’ve only been going for a few years (and not since the pandemic) but it’s a lot of fun if you like trains!
I only live less then an hour away so I will be there on Thursday and Friday. Still thee best show around!!!!
Complaining is much easier when one can hide behind a screen unshaven in their PJ's.
I vote for all complaints to be by video only. 
I'd hate to think the price of gas and inflation in general would dissuade any of us from attending..spending for most of us has its limits...
@Capetrainman posted:I'd had to think the price of gas and inflation in general would dissuade any of us from attending..spending for most of us has its limits...
I agree, but there are others who clearly don't:
@MikeH posted:I drove to York in October. From my home in St. Louis, it was about 825 miles one way. That whole trip cost a fair amount of money but gas was only about $200 of it. So even if gas is double and it costs me $400, that's not going to stop me. IMO, if someone is using an excuse like gas prices, then they weren't going anyway.
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Mike
@Capetrainman posted:I'd had to think the price of gas and inflation in general would dissuade any of us from attending..spending for most of us has its limits...
Well, if the price difference for gas for a 200 mile round trip stopped me from going to York, I'd be in pretty desperate straits! Sure I'm not happy that gas is much more expensive, but I can either whine about it or live with it. I'm pretty sure I don't have any oil wells in my back yard to supplement the nation's oil supply, so I sure can't do anything about it. 
Gas and inflation in general...happy neither of you are effected by either...wondering why my business volume has dropped off on Main Street over the past couple of months? Maybe it's just the weather?
@Mellow Hudson Mike posted:I agree, but there are others who clearly don't:
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Mike
My apologies for having a different opinion. 
@MikeH posted:My apologies for having a different opinion.
Not a problem. You're entitled to it, and there are others who clearly agree with you.
Mike
I'm going Friday. Only personal days I've used from work this year were for Fall and now Spring York.
Still a little early for me to put up the Thursday AM pre- meet breakfast thread.....
However, I am getting excited.
For those who stay over Friday evening......a group of us go to the Olive Garden for dinner for a "York thus far" debriefing.....
Peter
@Capetrainman posted:Gas and inflation in general...happy neither of you are effected by either...wondering why my business volume has dropped off on Main Street over the past couple of months? Maybe it's just the weather?
Who said we weren't affected? Just because something that's totally out of my control is happening, I'm not going to stop living! I don't like it, but there's a new rule in force nowadays. I don't have to like it, I just have to live with it, and that's what I'm choosing to do.
@Putnam Division posted:For those who stay over Friday evening......a group of us go to the Olive Garden for dinner for a "York thus far" debriefing.....
I'll follow Erol over there.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Who said we weren't affected? Just because something that's totally out of my control is happening, I'm not going to stop living! I don't like it, but there's a new rule in force nowadays. I don't have to like it, I just have to live with it, and that's what I'm choosing to do.
I'll burn about 40 gallons to/from/at York (550 miles each way + side trips). To put it into perspective, compared to last fall, the difference amounts to about the cost of a box car. Until I figure out how to take it with me, I'm not going to allow the cost of a box car to spoil my fun.
Despite the high cost of living, living remains popular.
Sure glad I talked Allan into going with us,no matter the additional York cost this year we're going to have FUN. Chet
Living on the Left Coast air fare and gas way up.
It’ll be cheaper buying gas in Pennsylvania for my rental car than it is here in Southern California!
@Traindiesel posted:It’ll be cheaper buying gas in Pennsylvania for my rental car than it is here in Southern California!
Everything is cheaper in PA than in southern CA!
Can anyone attend the “York thus far” debriefing at the Olive Garden or is it invitation only? What time do you normally go Friday night?
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Everything is cheaper in PA than in southern CA!
You got that right, John!!
@amtrack5899 posted:Can anyone attend the “York thus far” debriefing at the Olive Garden or is it invitation only? What time do you normally go Friday night?
Only train people are invited. We check your certifications at the door.
Table is already reserved. If you’d like to join us we usually assemble around 7pm.
@Chet posted:Sure glad I talked Allan into going with us,no matter the additional York cost this year we're going to have FUN. Chet
My fellow VN vet can talk me into just about anything. And we most definitely WILL have fun!
It's a matter of priorities and resources. If you have resources (money, time, desire, wife's permission, etc) then it's just a matter of priorities (how bad you want to go, is something else more important)
I like going and try to always reserve vacation and money. The wife has always been understanding. But I always prepare for the trip to be canceled (work, covid, kid sick, etc)
For people near York with other options for train shows, the higher price of gas may cause them to forego a York show. For me it's York or nothing.
I would love to go once; sounds amazing! 👍😊
Just a question......how much a gallon are you guys paying for gas there at the moment???
Here in the "land down under{ (Australia) we are paying $8.80 (Aus) for a gallon of fuel (just over 4ltrs) which equates to around $6.60 US a gallon. Is that good or bad compared to you guys??
My wife and I are planning to visit the US again next year (2023), and I am trying to organize it to be at York for the fall meeting. Fingers crossed and Covid and international travel permitting!!!
Peter.....Buco Australia.
I am attending York for the first time this year… not sure what to expect other than the obvious. I do have a few standard gauge goodies on my wish list, but other than that it’s an excuse to go for a long spring drive (including zipping around some curvy PA side roads), stay at a 1700’s B&B, and meet some of the SGMA members at breakfast. I will probably make a side trip after to the Toy train museum, which I have not been to in over 30 years. Is there anything else I should consider?
@Buco posted:Just a question......how much a gallon are you guys paying for gas there at the moment???
Here in the "land down under{ (Australia) we are paying $8.80 (Aus) for a gallon of fuel (just over 4ltrs) which equates to around $6.60 US a gallon. Is that good or bad compared to you guys??
My wife and I are planning to visit the US again next year (2023), and I am trying to organize it to be at York for the fall meeting. Fingers crossed and Covid and international travel permitting!!!
Peter.....Buco Australia.
In PA we are averaging $4.32 a gallon. I paid $4.29 this morning.
Hi Kennith, I would recommend the PRR museum, Strasburg railroad and the Choo Choo barn. You will not be disappointed.
@amtrack5899 posted:Hi Kennith, I would recommend the PRR museum, Strasburg railroad and the Choo Choo barn. You will not be disappointed.
Exactly what my wife and I will be doing Monday-Tuesday of York week, along with visiting the TCA National Toy Train Museum and the Strasburg Train Shop.
Pat
I suspect a lot of us from the northern climates -- it's up to 28 degrees here right now-- Welcome Spring! - are at Myrtle Beach, Hilton Head, or somewhere in Florida, etc.
Perhaps there is less model train related activity during those typical school "Spring Breaks". Obviously, this a good time to think about York, and those beautiful spring vistas throughout most of the truly gorgeous state of Pennsylvania...
$3.91 Sunday in Wilmington DE at off brand stations. They have 4 islands with 16 pumps and cars waiting at each pump.
RT 202 Fairfax DE.
It's around $3.79 to 4.09 in Texas. Little Rock, Arkansas has had the cheapest gas I saw recently at 3.64.
Kenneth there are usually 3 or 4 unofficial train "shows" at various locations in York on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday if you have time and are in the area. The Sheraton Four points hotel, the Wyndham hotel, Reliance Fire Hall and the fire hall on north Sherman street.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Well, if the price difference for gas for a 200 mile round trip stopped me from going to York, I'd be in pretty desperate straits! Sure I'm not happy that gas is much more expensive, but I can either whine about it or live with it. I'm pretty sure I don't have any oil wells in my back yard to supplement the nation's oil supply, so I sure can't do anything about it.
Hmm, can I convince you to switch from electronics and look into biological gene tinkering? Like convincing algae to produce gasoline instead of glucose?
I realize everyone's circumstances are different, currently where i live the price of gas is about 4.20...last year it was running about 3.20, for me that would be like 16 bucks more (I can do York on a single tank). Since York is what they call discretionary spending, going or not going obviously depends on the total picture. For me going to York is one of my few big expenses (of the discretionary sort), I don't really take vacations, I don't drive to work long distances like some people have to , so the extra cost of gas or the hotel room doesn't change much for me, for others it can make a difference and i can understand that (and yes, general inflation isn't helping either).
I am looking forward to it, I enjoyed going in the fall and look forward to the April meet. Met some good people and had a blast walking around and just being immersed in trains that way (kind of like forest bathing, only with trains; fortunately didn't run into crop dusters and the smelly old men contingent much *lol*). Plus it gets me out of the house, my cat tells me he needs a break from having to share his house with me, so there is that.
I know I've been getting excited by York. Been going to some small and medium train shows over the past few weeks and found myself running into some of my Blue Hall neighbors and others who I normally see only at York, and of course we found ourselves talking about York. 
My York week consists of driving to Gettysburg on Tuesday (hotels there are much cheaper than in York for that night) with a fellow Pgh. Hi-Railer who also happens to be in the Blue Hall alcove with me. We get up and get breakfast and hit the bandit meets Wednesday morning, usually meeting up with other guys from our club, and then after lunch we go exploring to different hobby shops, club open houses, or other train related activities within a few hour radius of York. Thursday morning is a quick breakfast at Round the Clock (also go there Friday and Saturday) before setup in Blue Hall. On Thursday night we go to Quaker Steak & Lube and the rest of the evenings we wing it as to where we go to dinner, but we usually hit a favorite Chinese restaurant (Shangrila) once or twice each York.
Andy
I scheduled a vacation day for Friday, and ordered passes. I live nearby so no hotels for me! I have been trying to hold back on various purchases so I can bring home some treasures from the show!
@bigkid posted:I realize everyone's circumstances are different, currently where i live the price of gas is about 4.20...last year it was running about 3.20, for me that would be like 16 bucks more (I can do York on a single tank). Since York is what they call discretionary spending, going or not going obviously depends on the total picture. For me going to York is one of my few big expenses (of the discretionary sort), I don't really take vacations, I don't drive to work long distances like some people have to , so the extra cost of gas or the hotel room doesn't change much for me, for others it can make a difference and i can understand that (and yes, general inflation isn't helping either).
I am looking forward to it, I enjoyed going in the fall and look forward to the April meet. Met some good people and had a blast walking around and just being immersed in trains that way (kind of like forest bathing, only with trains; fortunately didn't run into crop dusters and the smelly old men contingent much *lol*). Plus it gets me out of the house, my cat tells me he needs a break from having to share his house with me, so there is that.
Well put, bigkid...hope you enjoy your trip to York!
I’m only an hour and a half from York so I’m ok, however, seeing the distances that some of you travel are amazing. Hat’s off the each of you. You are what keeps TCA York strong.
@romiller49 posted:I’m only an hour and a half from York so I’m ok, however, seeing the distances that some of you travel are amazing. Hat’s off the each of you. You are what keeps TCA York strong.
Rod....I am getting a little excited!
Peter
I won’t be going cause I’m in Nebraska, the gateway to bad football and lots of corn.
I noticed hardly any items on the FOR SALE FORUM with a pick up at York offered. I have been successful both buying and selling this way.
